Ex-Disney Animator Reveals Truth & Builds Christian Alternative

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Davy Liu was a top character designer at Disney working on many top films including The Lion King. But he saw the evil building within the organization and took a leap of faith to bring Disney-quality imagery to Christian children’s books and movies. This is a powerful story of following through on the Holy Spirit’s conviction, risking financial security, to pursue his real calling that glorifies God. 

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  • How in the late 80’s Davy could already see the evil growing in Disney
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  • The challenge of Christian media not being at the quality of Hollywood
  • How his books are embraced in China and other closed countries even though they give clear accounts of biblical stories
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  • A look at powerful Christian children’s books to use in discipling your kids

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Org. Join us as we start another important conversation about effective parenting in a fallen world. Hey, welcome back to the show. We’re so glad you’re here. We have Ken do kids here. Davey Lu, the founder and owner of this incredible creative solution for children. So good to have you.

Thank you very much, Isaiah. Angie, it’s my pleasure to be in your podcast today.

For those of you who are listening, we just got a chance to meet Davey at the homeschool conference in Texas. Um, he was there and had such a riveting, I will say, riveting. It was very eye catching. Your booth was, um, obviously he has a lot of really beautiful animation. He’s a got a gift from the Lord regarding drawing and animation, and has quite the story as he used to work for Disney. And we’re going to get into that in a little bit here. Um, but we got to meet him at the homeschool conference here, some of his story, which we’re going to invite him to share with that with you guys today. It’s pretty powerful testimony.

Yeah, I think there’s some practical insights from, you know, raising up kids that learn differently to, you know, voting with your dollar and finding better solutions to, you know, I think things we don’t know yet as the spirit leads. So it’s going to be really cool. And I’m so glad you’re spending the time with us, because you’re having a unique but important impact by bringing quality books and videos to children in the Christian world. We so appreciate it.

Yeah, thank you very much. Yeah, working at Disney for ten over ten years, I recognize what Disney does. Everything represents excellence. So I want to continue to carry that through. Can do and really just it just letting kids that know that you can do all things through Christ.

That’s that’s so good. So we’ll jump into that in a second. But first we want to share a little bit about something.

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You’re so good at that.

Well, I genuinely love them. Okay, but today I’m so excited to be talking to Davy because what he is doing comes from that same perspective of coming from a biblical worldview, understanding the spiritual battle that we are in for our kids hearts, and that there is another company called Disney that actually has a very, I’m just going to say demonic. And there there is a agenda that is scheming that is led by the enemy, and it wants our kids hearts. And there’s this element of competition when we are trying to raise our kids with a biblical worldview. And we want tools, right? We want tools, Davy. We want good movies. We want good books that are going to be able to, like, catch our kids attention. And that’s just the reality is there’s a competition out there, and the Christian world hasn’t really been producing a lot of things that have had the excellence that you mentioned earlier. Yeah, yeah, 100%.

Yeah. When I, when I was going to Sunday school and then growing up in Sunday school, I mean, I recognize that, you know, the American kids in the high school teacher uh, in Sunday school, Sunday school told me that the Christian kids that grew up in America, 18 years after four years of liberal college or Christian college, less than 5% retained their faith. This is 1995. And then when I when I saw the statistic that The Lion King came out in 1994 and then 1996, 99.9% every child knows Simba. Hakuna matata. For like two years. It took Disney for an animated film to evangelize their agenda to the world. I’m like, wow, how can the Bible become like a beautiful animated film like we did with The Lion King, which is The Lion King is actually a biblical gospel story of Moses. And that’s when I got the inspirations that, you know, that, you know, animated films that has biblical stories and they don’t have to be literally, literally like the story, like Jesus or or Noah. You actually can be very creative using the animal. So that’s why the vision that I have after working on VBS, Aladdin and The Lion King, that’s when I got that inspiration that, you know, children loved animals. And that’s when I got the inspiration of creating this beautiful, cute little fox lion can do and can do his name come from you can do all things through Christ.

So I wrote the stories during Disney when and how the animal discovered Noah’s Ark and I pictured the Disney and on the on there’s one guy in there says, hey, can you take the animal to animal. Go in there two by two to Mr. Turtle and then to Mr.. I said, no can do the Bible says one male, one female. So that that was the struggle that I saw in the project development here in Los Angeles. And then when I saw the Slater film in 1998, and as a believer, I saw their developing, spending $23 million developing a boy want to be a girl. That’s when I realized, this is serious. This is a seriously, this is not just a dream, a job or it’s not. It’s a personal conviction. It’s a spiritual warfare. It is no longer. It wasn’t funny anymore. It was. It was a dream job. Until I became convicted that I did not want to face my Savior in eternity. To know that the gift that God has given me, that I have contributed something that is, you know, hindering children. I love what Jesus says. It says, let the children come to me and do not hinder them. I said, I do not want to be that verse, that I hinder these little children, and I want to be the part. I want to be the part that, you know, contribute, that let the children come to me.

So there’s another verse that that comes to mind when you were saying that it’s in Matthew. I think it’s in chapter 16 that says it’d be better for a man to have a millstone stone hung around his neck and thrown into the depths of the sea, than to leave one of these little ones astray or into is another translation. Right? And so what is Disney doing? They are literally leading children into the temptation of sin, leading them astray. And so people who are helping to get their agenda across are actually participating in that and they will be held to account. They will be.

I remember when Lion King came out. At the time, it was the best new animation that existed. It had some innovations and you literally were one of the artists drawing the lions and some of those key characters and so forth there, and you became convicted. I want to just touch on this for a second, because there’s a lot of families where the husband has a job. Maybe that part of what they’re doing is convicting to them. And it’s very hard, though, being a provider to shift gears out of something and to where the unknown is and something that is glorifying to God.

You mean standing up for that conviction that that you also experienced? Right. And I think that a good question that might be encouraging to some of the providers, some of the men who are listening or women who want to encourage their husbands, who maybe their husbands are wrestling like, I don’t know if I want to work for this master anymore. What sort of encouragement would you have for them through your testimony? Because you made a big, hard decision?

Yeah Well, for me is, you know, I always reflect on that verse for me is, you know, Matthew 619 and 20. I mean, for me, I grew up, I had low self-esteem growing up, honestly, even struggling, I would work on all these films because I was the youngest of seven. So my I grew up, I’m the youngest of seven. So all my, all my families are Chinese, so they’re automatically straight eight kids except me. I have straight F, so my mom always thought I was a Forest Gump, and so I always wanted to hear my mom says, I’m proud of you. But, you know, growing up in Christian home, I didn’t understand what God did to me. I mean, did he just forget he gave me IQs or so. So when I had this dream job, all I want my mom is like, you know, mom, mom, mom to say I’m proud of you. It was so important to me, for me as a boy growing up and working at Disney. So every film will come out. And then my mom wouldn’t go see it because she thinks it’s cartoon, and he’ll talk about my next door neighbor being a doctor or a lawyer. And then when I saw the verses where I was pursuing in Matthew six 1921 says, where your treasure is, is where your heart is all your heart. And where do you store your treasure now as a believer? Here I have a great job. I mean, you know, Disney came to my school. They were looking for eight kids out of the whole world. I was one of the lower looks. I don’t want to say lucky that God chose me to go to the Disney, but I didn’t know that.

That conflict of my faith and my income and my dream clash. And it was so convicting, so strong that I that that I saw myself in eternity of making this choice will change the trajectories of the treasure that I store in heaven. Yeah, I’m saved through Jesus Christ, but I certainly know that God gave me another chance to win souls, and for me was I want to. I want my mom to, to, to to say, I’m proud of you. So I want to win an Academy Award. I want to win an Oscar for my mom. And God says, don’t, don’t strive for those dreams. Your mom’s endorsement is nowhere near what God says that you are my. You know what? You are fearfully and wonderfully made. And so my biography in China, it says not a marvel, but a diamond. So, you know, I always say that my mom sees me as marble, but God sees me as diamond. So this, this biography showed up to remind every child that you know, in every child’s parents eyes. You are his, your kid are diamond in your eyes. And then when I saw how important that was, that’s when I my all my low self esteem was filled with the fullness of Christ that I recognize that that my heart, my treasure, my dreams, everything that I’m worth, that the pursuing, the success is all measured in this infinite of eternity, of success in God’s eyes. And that’s not when in a beyond an Oscar is nowhere near. When in one child to Christ.

This is such a good message because there’s so many ways to measure intelligence. And in the academic world, it’s measured in a very singular way. And I think what you’re hitting on is important for parents to hear, especially if they’re home educating their children is or regardless, is that God made each child unique and for different purposes. And there’s brilliance that’s possible through all children. But it’s going to look different. And our job is not just to look at our children in a singular fashion of intelligence, but to look at the the natural expression of intelligence that comes out of each child in the way they’re wired, not how we’re wired, because that’s usually what parents tend to project naturally and instead look for the brilliance in their children. That’s unique. And I would say that, you know, how did. So then you’re in this environment with six children, straight A’s, very academic and academic culture in your family. How did you come out of that and discover the brilliance God had for you? What’s that journey about?

Yeah, so I came to America in 1982, I was 13, I couldn’t understand a word of English. I went to school and then had his class called Art class. We didn’t have art class in Taiwan, so art class, all you’re given is not test paper, it’s just blank sheet of paper. So I loved it. I don’t need translations or dictionaries. So that sheet of paper, my art teacher told me something that, hey, Davey, you can do it. And I was like, yeah, right. No one ever told me I can do anything. So I drew something, a Chinese dragon, and I didn’t think of anything of it. I just gave it to her as my homework assignment. And then she took that artwork into a competition in Florida. And then I won that champion. National champion in Florida. Then went to national in a whole 50 states. And then I won the top 20 in the whole United States. So that’s when I knew that. Okay. All right. So this I thought I was living in a body of Forrest Gump until I realized that, hey, you know, I got a gift to really draw a straight line. God gave me this extraordinary gift that no one had ever given me.

A blank sheet of paper, except my art teacher gave me a sheet of white paper, and through that white sheet of paper, I got to practice my creativity. And I always talk about that. You know, in the beginning, God created the heavens and earth. That’s Genesis one one that that creativity is in all of us. It’s God’s first attribute, the biblical Bible. And I and I talk about how blessed that I am. I got to use that gift and even thought in my Chinese culture that we don’t celebrate creativity, we celebrate manufacture, we celebrate following others. We celebrate being a cow instead of being a cow boy. Uh, you know, it’s really being a pioneer in doing something that your heart and you’re built, you’re chiseled to do this. Despite of my parents, my dad’s going to celebrate 100 years old. He’s still waiting for me to quit my day job so that I can go back and take over my old man’s job in Taiwan. But. But I just knew that, you know, my destiny and my my passion and my gift. It is truly using my my creativity. That’s God’s given me. And to bring children to Christ through animations.

That’s amazing. That’s amazing. So fast forward now you’re leaving Disney and you’re starting something new. Did you have some savings? Did you? How did you how did you get started in this new endeavor? I think a lot of people are curious how they make that transition.

Yeah. So so I left Disney in 98 and I was so blessed. I was able to got hired by George Lucas to work on Star Wars Episode one, and it’s doing that two years I had that. I had that complaint that said, these poor kids. I mean, they can’t be watching cucumber or tomatoes or a million times. And this is 1999. I mean, that’s all churchy kids is watching everybody’s meaning that VeggieTales. Oh, yeah, everybody’s mimicking their, you know, and it’s great. But, you know, VeggieTales doesn’t don’t do so well after Christian kids past 6 or 7, right? They don’t have anything that’s a little bit more, more polished, I call it. Um, so but you know, here I’m always complaining, making fun of these poor kids, you know, looking like tomato and cucumber. But I was like, wait a minute. You know what? What would you do if Christ was one of those creative people? He would do something about it instead of complaining. And so I got off my high horse year 2000, and I moved from San Francisco down to here in Southern California, and I bought my humble house with my first wife. My first wife left me because she thought I was the dumbest choice that I ever chose to leave a very lucrative job. I think I had no kids at that time. And, um, during year 2000, I had a rep in New York, and then my illustration became the most, um, creative original illustrator of the year in 2000. So I was really blessed that I was able to stay home and do an illustration for time magazine, for GQ, for some big publishers.

And, um, that’s that’s when I realized that God gave me this time quietly in the garage, even though I was, you know, devastated that I’d gone through a divorce. Um, it was four years later. And, of course, you know, during that time, 911 hit. Um, it was a really challenging time because I had no money in the bank. And I really want, I really need, you know, income. Um, so I, um, I saw the verse that Jesus said, there’s one man that when he saw a hidden treasure, and when he saw it again, he hidden it again. And he joyfully when when he saw everything he has. When I saw that I was a verse because I was, I was on the verge. I have to be honest with you. I was working on freelancing for Disney and Lion Kings two and three. I was on the verge of no having no money and thinking about going back to Disney to get a get a, get a really good salary for that verse. It hit me because, you know, here I am, I have a house I can sell, but when I sell a joyfully. So this is 2002. And when I saw that verse, that was a confirmation that I knew that, you know, Christ did everything he knew how he did not die out of retirement. He died in his prime. And I was 32 at that time. And I and I saw myself, I said, if I go back to Disney again, I would never come out again because I knew that it’s such a comfortable and great job.

But when this verse hit me that this guy sold joyfully everything he has to find his treasure, and I saw that treasure was to win souls for Christ. And it’s eternity. It’s going to be worth it all. And then I literally next day put a for sale sign. I sold my house and I moved to a humble studio, and that’s when I began to develop this project. The giant lead, the fire fish, the slate of animated film. Because I got to show the investor what this film will look like. And that’s why these books are for. They’re not. They’re they’re actually. I didn’t create them as a book. I created them as an animation script. From animation script. I used this house money that I made, and I hired some people to help me develop the script and, and, and all the product that you see here is basically my first house. And then I met my wife and then my wife, Joan. We’ve been married 19 years, and she saw her beautiful house, too. She was. So she became my first investor. She married me and her she was a widow and her daughter and three of us. We just worked hard at it. How do you translate the Bible so that the Bible can be seen if The Lion King go go to China and Muslim countries, so much more the righteousness and holiness of God. But it does require a beautiful artistry. It does require commitment. Someone that believe in to love and to embrace, to really craft this beautiful artistry.

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And when I came out with this slate of Bible storybooks, it took 20 years. I got published in China. These beautiful books. And then when they were published in China, um, this is the story of Noah’s Ark, and this is a story of lion perspective of Daniel. This is the perspective of Moses parting the Red sea. And then there’s this one is the story of Jesus. What’s this story of Jesus from the donkey’s perspective?

I love seeing right where yours are in Chinese. Right?

Yeah, yeah.

This is in Chinese, so I have it in English. I just want to show and tell and.

I absolutely love it. I think it’s cool that people can see both of them, like next to each other. Yeah. And I think also, you guys, before you continue for a second, I think it’s important that people know, um, where they can find these books. And so we’ll share at the end. But I also would you just share right now, right during this part of the podcast as well where they can find these awesome. Look at this illustration you guys, and you’ll go through and maybe share like a brief, um, synopsis in a second. But where can they find them?

Yeah, you can find our, our ministry website. It’s called can do kids k e n d u kids so.org. Yeah. And you can find in there our bookstore there. So these books.

These.

Books won the best children’s Moral Books in Communist China in 2015. Wow.

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The story of the Bible.

So again, I got invited to Billy Graham’s headquarters in 2019, right before Covid. I got to talk about how I brought the gospel into a non-Christian country. I said, listen, if Disney can bring their stuff, why can’t Jesus, right? Jesus told me to preach the gospel not like a dove, but like a snake. We got to be as wise as a serpent, right? When I saw what Jesus did, 57 parables that he preached in the Gospel of Matthew, Luke, and John, all the parables, none of them were Christian or churchy. And they were all very, very, very easy to understand for a little child to adult. And that’s what I saw Disney use. The tool is really break down the morality into a really simple animal languages. And that’s what I learned, that many children don’t think like us. Children don’t think in this theology format. But children love beautiful stories. And that’s when I saw that you know, if Disney can create a Lion King, then with God’s help, I’m going to create the story for the King of Kings.

I love that because that we should be producing things that are of superior quality. If society is used to a certain experience and quality of receiving something, then us Christians should be trying to do even better than that. Not only with the story, not only with the words and the writing, but also the look and feel and the design, because that’s what people are used to. How are we going to grab people if the quality of the acting and the quality of the illustrations aren’t up to par?

It’s a competition, actually, I hate to say it, but it truthfully is because kids are exposed to all the other things. And the truth is, you guys who are listening, there’s so many things that I want to tell you that I learned from Davy when we were at the homeschool conference. We could literally talk to him for probably an hour and a half or more. But, you know, for those of you who are listening, we want to be able to offer you guys a giveaway as well. So I’m going to share about it more at the end to remind you. But I do want to tell you you got to find us on, on Instagram. Because on courageous parenting and courageous mom and resolute man, we’re going to be hosting a giveaway along with Davie. And you could win this beautifully illustrated book. It’s called The Giant Leaf, which was your first product, right? Right. Yep. Right. And so you’re going to want to find out information about where to find the giveaway. You can go to the Courageous Parenting. Com website. On the podcast it’ll be in the show notes like always what.

I love what I love is the strategy behind this. Because you can’t send something that is like a children’s Bible to communism, like it’s crack. You can’t send a track, you can’t send a normal Bible. You can’t send anything that is straight up, you know, biblical, recognized as biblical truth. But what you’ve done is you’ve stayed true to biblical truth, but disguised it a little bit in different characters and animals and so forth. So you’re telling the story, but through animals, which is attractive to children. Um, how do you make sure that it translates to the children, even if maybe the parents don’t even understand what’s happening or the government doesn’t understand what’s happening.

So we are we’re developing a curriculum. We’re going to have it by January of 2025, in our next homeschool. All the conventions that we’re going to be showing, we’re going to have a curriculum to teach this as an allegory. How do you explain the how do you connect that with the biblical truth? So we’re going to have that, just like Jesus explained in the parables, without explaining the parable, you’re going to think they’re very silly stories. So, um, so again, you know, the allegory is what what you said, Isaac, is like, how do I take a biblical story like Noah’s Ark that every kid know the story? But I surprised them from this little fox, that he had a dream and he lived in the slavery of dinosaurs. But he dreamed of this massive giant leap. Someday will come and that he will find his new freedom when he finds his giant leap. So I won’t spoil the surprise. Um, so, you know, it’s this journey of this finding giant leap. And then with the with the apes. Don’t believe in, you know, the floods coming. Dinosaurs says we don’t believe in no rain. We believe that we’re big and mighty. No rain ever could bear us.

So it’s an allegory of, you know, kids, are you going to be confident like you’re you think you’re going to be a mighty T-Rex? Uh, or are you going to be like, can do humble little fox that take a giant leap of faith. And so on. The way there, he found that a monkey had a dream of the giant leap, and there was king bananas. And eventually they heard about. There’s a little myth of animal eater, right? There’s animal eater has destroyed their force for 120 years. But those who went inside the animal eaters belly found out animal eaters is actually animal saviors. So what, you’re seeing that book right there, Angela, that you’re flipping? It’s actually the highlight of an animated feature film that’s coming out in the theaters, and we’re producing them to a beautiful, epic animated film directed by Disney directors and produced by Disney producers that love Jesus. Because our goal is really, you know, if the world is making that kind of benchmark so much more us. With us with what? Excellence. Why? Because that’s what Christ does. Christ should be the largest children’s ministry and not the secular world.

I love this, so you guys have to tell you, when I came to the booth at the homeschool conference and I started talking to Davey and he started taking me through this story, The Giant Leaf, and showing me through allegory. But this story, right from an animal’s perspective about Noah’s Ark, actually. So here, if you’re watching our YouTube channel, you guys might not know, but we actually have the podcast on YouTube also. So go and check that out. I have a there’s a video. And so you can actually see inside the book, which you just said is going to be coming a full animated film. And you got you got some sponsorship. Who was the sponsorship? Was it.

Uh, so I got to keep that part.

Kind of confidential. But we have 17 million rays out of the 35. So it’s an investment from a major investors here in California. So, um, you know, I keep continuing to look for the rest of the 18 million. So if one of the audience wants to be an investor that can invest in something that is seen as lucrative as The Lion King, except it’s for the King of kings, you can reach out to us at Kendall do that.

I love that it’s such a good cause. For those of you who are listening, I mean, we’ve done podcast episodes on voting with your dollar. We’ve talked about the dangers of Disney, um, and just that. Parents would be aware of the hidden agenda that’s in there, and maybe we can talk about that in the future too. But one of the things that you showed me, so for those who are watching this is the animal eater. This is the ark and the the animals are scared to go into the ark. But there was another aspect of this video that I wanted you to share about, because this really was intriguing to me. You have this character. Yeah. Is a.

Yeah. Look, it’s.

Actually that when the animal saw the mouth of the animal eater and they’re contemplating, some people are frightened. And it’s exactly the reflection of when you meet Christ, it’s the same thing. You see him as a Savior. Do you see him as a good man or a prophet or a liar? You have to make that choice of crossing that line. And that’s.

Why you make the liar.

Or the Bible’s.

True. That’s right. I make.

That very. And I make that very clear. And that’s subliminal right there with the cross. I mean, this is exactly how every animal sees is how every child sees who.

Jesus.

Is.

But then you have this character that’s in a lot of your books. That’s right. Just explain that to those who. Because I went through the whole thing with you and I was like, shocked when you shared with me about what this animal represents.

Yeah. So that gazelle.

Came from this book of Genesis, that there’s an eternal gazelle, the angel, our angel Gabriel. And then he also. Yeah, he’s also in the in the book of revelation. Basically, he is in all our 12 animated films. He is in the fish perspective. Moses parting the Red sea. He is in an animal perspective of Jesus, lion perspective of Daniel. These are this is the story of the garden tree, good and evil. It’s about these four little girl wants to be a beautiful hot chick in the garden. And then when they when they recognize they eat this tree, good and evil, you will die or become the most beautiful pageant. Pageant? Pageant. You know, the pageant beauty. But when Eve showed up, they sent her to see if she really died. So that’s what I did with this. And then. So this is where the origin of this beautiful story of the Gabriel, the gazelle and the gazelles are inspired. Yeah. The gazelle by inspired by by this character. So he’s in the in the. So we’re going to be releasing the secret code, the giant leap. You actually can find the shadow of that gazelle despite of can do not knowing that that gazelle continue to lead it. So you can see the shadow in every page in the book so that kids will know that you know, so to speak, the the, our angels of God that you know, we may not know who God is, but God’s got us. He is always with us, and he is always watching us before we even know it.

It’s so cool because you’re, you know, in in communist countries and so forth where Christianity is not allowed. These seeds are being planted with people and then parents who are raising up their children to be Christians. Um, they’re.

Tools.

They’re tools because the kids can easily identify with these. You can have discussions with your children too. So and it just makes it fun for the kids.

To almost see it. You said something so powerful. You said the word seed, and it just reminds me of the parable of the sower that Jesus shared. Right. And and how there are people who are doing house churches secretively in China and they’re they’re evangelizing and these house churches are growing. But if children can be exposed to this, these are the little seeds that prepare the soil of their hearts, if you will, so that when they do meet someone who’s a part of one of those house churches or someone who does share the gospel with them, it actually like connects the dots in their mind. And then they remember these really sweet stories that they loved in their heart. And then Jesus can reveal his truth to them, and it’s more like their soil of their heart is prepared to accept him. And that just really gets me excited, because that is an element of children’s ministry, if you will, as far as evangelism is concerned.

So. So now I have to shift gears back to this other part of this episode that we’ve been weaving back and forth on. Two things here is you made this transition. You’re where you’re at now. And my guess is and this is from my own experience with God, is that often as you take steps out in faith, that God often shows up at the end of your own strength and just in time. And I see that it’s like, you know, financially sometimes we’ve experienced that. We just have to trust God in this. And all of a sudden someone gives money. All of a sudden something happens and God shows up through people. And I’m sure you’ve experienced a lot of that. And obviously your new wife, you know, selling her house to contribute as your first investor.

That’s amazing.

That’s pretty amazing. And I just didn’t want that to get missed, because I think a lot of people are scared to trust God to that level.

Yeah, I have.

To say it. I have to say those are reality and those are some real fear. And it was very scary. I mean, when I was in my garage and when nine over 11 hit, I mean, there was literally, literally I couldn’t pay my bills. I mean, these are these are real, real, real moments. A Christian that someone believe, you know, God’s got Jehovah Jireh, but.

Yet.

Where is he? Right. Where is he? I mean, so what? I’m struggling is no different. Exactly what those guys in Old Testament or New Testament, it’s. It’s really just. How do you experience something that doesn’t make sense for me, that I believe this is what God calling me to do. But when I have wings from heaven, what’s wings from heaven? When you have a little things like, you know, the books that we just just this summer I have someone came back from China, came to California and says, thank you so much. I was in China and right now the crazy dictator is dictating China. But I was able to find your beautiful Bible stories in a normal bookstores, and I can able to purchase it. Yeah, those are wings that I have, and I am able to buy those books legally without getting arrested. And I can shower this to the family and children’s in China. And those are things that I call wings. I mean, these are encouragement that has no price tag. There’s no price tag, but it’s absolutely just it’s an endorsement. It’s like a hug from heaven saying, keep going, David Yes.

With God, nothing is impossible.

Don’t look at your circumstances because your God is the God who sees victories. Even though you’re facing your Goliath. But God always seen that head on the plate of your hands. So I have to. I have to walk by faith. I can’t walk by the numbers of my bank account. I because it’s especially right now with this circumstance I’m in. People say, are you crazy? Live in California? Well, somebody’s got to live in Sodom and Gomorrah. Okay, so I’m going to stay here. This is my industry of films. I’m going to be standing right here facing Goliath, and I’m going to keep fighting because it’s not me who’s fighting. It is Christ who fight in us. And I have to be faithful because I’m not promised till tomorrow. Tonight. The rapture might come. I want to do this well.

Wow. Way to be obedient to the Lord.

Okay, I have some questions because you had the inside scoop on Disney, and that is just it’s rare when you get people who will actually talk about the agenda that’s happening. And you were warned you’ve shared a little bit of that testimony, but from someone who knows the purposeful, intentional agenda, you saw it. They were planning years ahead. Maybe you could share a little bit about how they were planning years ahead. But but as a parent, as someone who cares about what your children are exposed to, what do you have to say to parents about Disney and what warnings do you have for them? Like, just please share.

Yeah.

I um, when I was there in Disney and I was going to church at Pasadena and I was telling the pastors I would start telling the pastors what Disney is doing at that time, 1998 1999. No one is really taking me seriously. They think, come on, you know, Disney is doing that. They’re just doing it for fun. But then, you know, we’re talking about 24 years later that every parent is feeling the heat. When I warn the pastors that Disney is doing this to children, they really weren’t taking me seriously. I think sometimes where churches are a little bit, I don’t know, two decades behind or something. Um, you know, I just don’t see us Christian boycotting. I certainly don’t want to.

Boycott.

Because I feel like if the darkness is there, the light just has to be bright. I mean, if we shine as a light, the darkness has to flee. So what’s going on? Why is Disney doing this? Well, when I was there in Disney in 1998, I was in the development. So we call it the cowboy level. Like there’s 5000 animators, there’s only 50 of us. All we do is produce quality content that will impact the world, that will make billion. That’s what we do, 50 of us. We’re up there developing well, 50 of us up there. I would say 60% people are. They were all they had a gay lifestyle. So as you can see, this is their normality. These are the people who make a difference. Now in Disney for some reason. It’s like a bonus to be gay, to work in a I don’t know what it is about artists, they’re just so creative, but yet they have this different perspective of what family is. So of course they’re dictating. They’re taking their position and making their agenda known. So they’re sincerely believe that this is empathy. This is something that they call it. You know.

Mercy.

And understanding, but they just are lost. They don’t realize that they’re being used by the demonic spirit, and so they’re sincerely wrong. So what am I going to do? I mean, here I am and I’m seeing them. I mean, they’re nice people, right? They’re nicest people. They just don’t know the savior. So I recognize that for them, this is their lifestyle. But for me, I know this is the demonic. This is absolutely a spiritual warfare. And I never knew that Mickey could, could be in that level until I sit there. At one time, one guy came up to me, his name is Royal Disney. He came up to our floor and he was so mad because Disney stock was going down, because Disney never made any money out of their films besides The Lion King in 1994. And Pixar is making all the hits. So Royal Disney, the nephew of Walt Disney, came up storming. He was the guy who runs the studio. He says, show me every. I mean, he was cussing. Show me every garbage that you guys are making right now in the.

Next 20.

Years. So we had like a day and we show all the film that we, you know, we were going to produce in the next two decades. And one of them is called wildlife. It’s about a boy wanting to be a transvestite. I remember Walt Disney in the Disney theater. He threw his pipe across. He was so upset. So upset. He says, who the heck? I mean, he just cussed across the room. He says, who decided to spend these? My uncle’s money to make a boy want to be a girl. He fired the three executives and those three executives. Disney at that time, they were all LGBTQ lifestyle and and Walt Disney says my uncle would never approve of this stuff for children. So I can testify this is not Walt Disney’s agenda. It is. So unfortunately, Walt Disney today is not owned by Walt Disney family. It is owned by public now. So I think Disney has many times been the fringe of going public and going for sale. So I know right now it’s no longer owned by Walt Disney. So that’s why you’re seeing all this woke agenda that is embedded in.

In.

Disney and and my my, this is my theory. I really think the rapture is fairly coming back fairly soon. And I think by doing that, it’s exactly what Jesus says hindering kids. It’s way faster than hindering parents or adults. But because kids are vulnerable. You look at Hitler, you look at, uh, Communist Chairman Mao Zedong, you look at all these people. They start they begin with decaying children first. And that’s what I saw. What what devil use is really using the tool of Disney to really, you know, decay our generation all you do. So when I started in first day in Disney, Disney says get them before kids turn ten.

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Yeah ten. They say if you get them before you turn ten they love this Disney brand. And the stories. They will sing the song, buy the product and they’ll tell their kids of their kids, of their kids.

I just have.

To tell you something. I was recently reading a book, um, about by Sean McDowell, and it had some Barna Group statistics and other statistics on it and the average. This book was written about five years ago, but the average age that a person actually makes a decision on if they believe in God or not is age 11. How strategic is the enemy that he’s like, we got to get him before age ten. Yeah, right. I mean, we see Satan trying to counterfeit everything that God has created, and you see that over and over again, even portrayed in some of these Disney films, right? Where they’ll try to tell a story that seemingly is actually first shared in biblical scripture, and then they warp it and they change it to make it be something that is going to actually lead kids astray. Yeah. And so it’s there’s definitely a war and a battle going on. But I think that a lot of parents for the longest time felt like there were no other options for them. Yeah. And so they’re like, oh, am I going to be the parent that just says no to all entertainment? Because it’s all like it’s all down in the.

I know. Right, right.

But there’s I mean currently right now I’m still in the battle.

I mean, it’s.

Just like, you know, this, I didn’t I didn’t want to make this into a book, even though I was book signing at a Christian kid came up to me, says, sir, thank you for not making your book look like a Christian book, I love it. It was an eight year old kid. He understood that there’s a Christian product and then there is the, you know, secular product. But, you know, it’s like the kid even understood the quality of it. And then, you know, so, so really, our goal is really make this produce this into an animated film that can be shown across the world. And the quality you have there has to be just beyond what Disney is doing, and that’s really what Christ deserves. So, you know, I pray that we hopefully get our the rest of our funding so that we can get this film take off. It takes two years and it roughly about 2000 animator to animate something that is Christ worthy. Beautiful animated film story. You know, for children’s.

Well, everybody listening. Let’s say a prayer for the movie efforts in the 18 million that needs to come in. If everybody listening just says a prayer right now, um, that would be so powerful. And where can people find more information?

Um, yeah.

So just visit our website. Can do kids. Org and I also speak around the country or your churches. My testimony is from The Lion King to the King of Kings. So you can hear my testimony on our website.

So cool. One little fact that I forgot didn’t come out. You depicted yourself. That’s in a major movie. Could you explain that real quick?

Oh my goodness.

That means I gotta get up and I gotta show it to you. So let me. Since this is my studio, I happen to have it right over here.

No, I love it.

Yeah. You got to be on the YouTube to see his.

All right. Pretty cool. So you guys can cut and just. Yeah.

So yeah. You know every Disney is true. Every Disney animator always want to put their personal signature in there. And then so I did mine. Um, so I went there when I, you know, help develop the story of Mulan. And then Mulan is a Chinese stories and I saw Mulan has a hero character named, you know, General Shen. And I was like, you know, so one of the character designs saw my face. It’s like, hey, yeah, maybe I could use you as a reference. Who wouldn’t know that stuck. So they turned my face into this beautiful animated characters here and licensing character right here. Yeah.

That’s great. Oh that’s.

Exciting. Well, thank you so much for joining us on the podcast. For those of you again. I want to remind you, we have an awesome giveaway of it’s a beautiful book called The Giant Leaf. And again, it is going to be representing the new animated film that, Lord willing will be coming out in a few years. And if you want to find out more, keep up to date you. Where can people follow you on social media?

Yeah. So there’s Instagram can do kids. So it needs to go on Instagram can do kids. And if you want to look at our beautiful production whatever if your kids are in a creative stuff, our film studio here in LA, it’s called Can Do Films. So you can go to can do films.com to see our beautiful productions.

All right, Davey, so good to have you on the show. Thanks so much. Thank you very much.

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