Scripture In This Episode:

Psalm 33:12 – “Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord, The people He has chosen as His own inheritance.”

Proverbs 14:15 – “The simple believes every word, But the prudent considers well his steps.”

Numbers 24:9 – “He bows down, he lies down as a lion; And as a lion, who shall rouse him?’ Blessed is he who blesses you, And cursed is he who curses you.”

Genesis 12:3 – “I will bless those who bless you, And I will curse him who curses you; And in you all the families of the earth shall be blessed.”

1 Timothy 2:1-2 – “Therefore I exhort first of all that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks be made for all men, for kings and all who are in authority, that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and reverence.”

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Welcome to Courageous Parenting Podcast, a weekly show to equip parents with biblical truth on raising confident Christian kids in an uncertain world.

Hi, I’m Angie from Courageous Mom, and I’m Isaac from Resolute Man. We’ve been married for 21 years and have seen the fruit from raising our eight kids biblically. Based on t he raw truth found in the Bible, we can no longer let the culture win the hearts of children.

Too many children from Christian families are walking away from their faith by age 18. And it doesn’t have to be this way. It shouldn’t be this way. Join us as we start an important conversation about effective parenting in a fallen world.

Welcome back to the podcast. Hey, everybody, so big topic today Ang. Yeah, we’ve been wanting to do this for a while.

I think you more than me. This is a very potentially controversial topic. Oh, for sure. But very relevant. Yeah, needed. I mean, we are going to be talking about politics, Christianity and your kid’s future.

That’s a big topic. We get a lot of questions about where we stand on things or why we’re pro Trump, for example, and a Christian. A lot of those, surprisingly, come from international audience. Yes, messaging us, which is interesting. And so we thought we would do an episode on it. So you fully understand why we have taken a stance we have and just know we’re 100 percent for unity. This is not meant to be a divisive episode at all. But we live in America and we believe that as Christians we need to reject passivity, stand for truth and lead unapologetically.

That’s right. And it’s getting harder and harder to do that in a society that is becoming more oppressed. Right. Which actually is one of the things we will talk about and down the road in this episode.

Yeah. With censorship and the lack of freedom of speech that’s happening especially towards conservatives. I mean, that’s a fact. I mean, you can’t argue that. Of course, anybody can argue anything but. Right. Because we do have freedom of speech. Yeah. Which is good. So let’s there’s a lot of confusion right now. And I think the Piper thing, we’ll talk about that in a little bit. And people, Christian leaders taking different stances out there and so forth. So we’re going to give our stance. But I do want a lot of you have also been asking quick Segway and we’ll get into in a second while we’re in Idaho Do you live? And wow, that’s beautiful because, you know, yeah, we’ve been pretty excited. It’s been a while since we’ve owned a home. And praise God, six years, a very unique thing happened. Where we’re able to do that, I would say was a bit unconventional and very much a blessing. And part of that blessing was our incredible company that helped us to be able to secure real estate. And so Idaho Wild and Mark there and his team are really phenomenal. So I would since we get so many people asking, hey, I’m interested in moving to Idaho and so forth, if you’re interested in southern Idaho because that’s what his company handles, then go to Courageous Parenting.com will put a form in the link. You can put your name and answer a couple of questions, and then I’m going to give Idaho wild access to that so they can follow up with you. It’s been a little bit of an administrative challenge. So many people are messaging us and interested. And who did you use, who helped you and so forth. And what’s cool is strong Christian led company and just awesome, awesome people. So, yeah.

So we’re excited to connect you guys with them if that is a desire of your heart and something that you are pursuing right now. So we also just wanted to kick off this particular podcast topic. Yeah. With a scripture in Psalm 33:12. He says, Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord, the people he has chosen as his own inheritance. It was interesting. I was just reading this and reading Blessed is the Nation Whose God is the Lord. I’m sure that Blessed is a nation whose leader is a Christian. Yeah, but that’s not what the Scripture says. Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord. And I think that that is for me at least one of the things that I have been focusing on.

Not yes, I would ideally love to have a candidate that was running that had the some of the strengths that I do see in Trump politically. Right. And with policies and different things, but also have an even stronger faith and conviction of the way that he his character is portrayed.

Right. I would love to see that. But I think that sometimes our ideologies can be out of a desire to have Jesus as the president.

And that’s not actually something that we can have.

Yeah, absolutely. We need to look at this circumspectly. We need to look at this from a biblical perspective and so forth. And oftentimes we’re taught not to talk about religion and politics, and that is detrimental to the culture within our homes. And perhaps just challenge yourself in this question, because that was ingrained in you in the workplace not to do that, not to talk about those things or in social gatherings or maybe at Thanksgiving because people have different beliefs and so forth. We all obviously have to be respectful. Has that seeped into how you lead your family?

Right. How you parent, what you talk about at the dinner table and have your key to your kids now believe they should never talk about religion and politics because of what you’ve maybe not consciously but subconsciously passed onto them and maybe is that why we have some generations from a generational perspective that are very leaning, very liberal or passive in some ways?

Right. And this is actually can I just say, the ones that are Christian, those of you who are listening, what what this this particular topic is the part that I get most excited about. Oh, I love it. And just because, you know, we always try to take back what we’re talking about, what’s relevant today, what’s needed for parents to talk about. Yes. For their own personal exhortation, their own personal spiritual growth. But at the same time, we need to look at it and go, how is this impacting my kids and how is this going to impact my legacy? And how is this going to impact my kid’s, his future, my grandkid’s future, my great grandkids? What about six generations down the road? Yes, what we do and how we vote actually will impact the generation, six generations, seven generations down the road. Yeah, right. And we need to recognize that. We need to recognize that to take a passive approach or a nonchalant like to to to fall into the trap of thinking that by, oh, my vote doesn’t matter or they’re both that you can justify in your mind a reason why not to vote for either of them or a God is sovereign.

Therefore, what I do doesn’t matter. There is some people that believe that God is sovereign. That’s true. But what you do, you matter does matter. He put you here for a reason. Multiple things can be true at the same time. We’ll talk more about that.

Yeah. And so I think that there is an element of where do you see how Isaac just even brought up something where a biblical conviction can actually warp your conviction on what you do? And so I we just want to encourage you guys that there is actually we will dive into 20 reasons why we are going to be voting for Trump. But before we get to that stuff, you guys, we have some bigger topics to dive into first that have actual massive impact on your kids and how to talk to your kids about politics and how to raise up kids that don’t maybe have some of the shortcomings we do.

And maybe you’re like, hey, I don’t have these shortcomings. Cool. You’re unique, OK? Because frankly, I believe we’ve had those shortcomings in our past. One hundred percent and which is not being bold in getting more involved and in these kinds of things in the political arena and not talking about it. I can remember when I’m in business, I wouldn’t talk about these things. And there is a place and time we have to be respectful and we have to be. I think the key word is discerning and not divisive and not divisive and always speak and love and pay attention who’s around us and how that impacts people. All of these things, everything we do should be done in love, but it doesn’t mean we are passive about things of great importance.

And I would say that between the two of us, I for sure have had the most conviction about being passive to the point where, like, I still struggle with that people pleaser. Those who you guys who have been listening for a long time know this. I’ve brought it up a few times to where I don’t want to cause anyone to argue, no, I don’t want to stir division. And so even though I might have a very strong conviction on a specific matter, whether it be masks or vaccinations, you may not have seen me post about it. That doesn’t mean that conviction wasn’t there. Right. And so for us to actually be diving into this topic and really challenging people now, we will give our perspective on quite a few different issues. Yeah, but we actually want to challenge you guys. Like if we were to literally go over the 20 policies, for example, or 20 issues that we’re going to go over, if we were to go into every single one in depth going through scripture, this would be a 20 episode podcast. Oh, yeah.

And so I have to urge you guys to maybe take notes right down the path because we are going to be rapid firing some of this stuff. And you have to I just want to urge you to seek the word, to seek God’s guidance, to have a humble, teachable heart. We are still in the process of learning about some of these, you know, and like, God, show me like how does this relate this year compared to four years ago, you know?

So let’s dive in. Right before we do that, I just want you to know all the show notes, everything that CourageousParenting.com hit podcast. This episode will be there. Also, if you’re interested in relocation, the podcast, just because so many people have been asking about why we’re moving and so forth, that’s they’re both this episode in the relocation podcast. That form will be for if you’re interested in talking to the people that have helped us and so creative and good at what they’re doing there and make sure you do it that way because they are going to give importance to the people that do that form. OK, so let’s dive into it. Number one is teach what you are learning. Well, that sounds really simple. Well, it’s amazing how we lack implementing this first point. It’s like, OK, we’re learning things, but then we’re like, OK, what’s appropriate and not appropriate to teach our kids? And then because we’re not sure, maybe we don’t talk about anything that could be one hurdle or maybe we’re not learning.

Right. And so that’s another thing that could be a really if you’re not talking about the things that you’re struggling to fully understand yourself, it could actually be a sign that there’s some pride there.

Yeah. And what we’re actually encouraging you, especially as your kids are getting older, is to actually ask them what they’re learning about things, to have one. Yes, to have a humble heart attitude. Right. Because you can learn some things from your kids. I know we have. Right. But at the same time, don’t you wouldn’t you rather have an open, honest, non-threatening discussion with one of your kids or with all of your kids to hear what their beliefs are and how they’ve actually been impacted and influenced by media, by friends, by grandparents, by whoever? Yeah, you have this discussion and you might not even realize that your kids have some of the convictions and beliefs that they do have, in which case isn’t there. There’s no greater motivation than that on those topics. Right.

So super important. And sometimes we fail to teach things until we know everything about it. We’re like, well, I want to make sure I’m right about everything. So I’m going to, you know, I don’t and then I don’t have time to study enough. So then we don’t teach something. What I have found is when I’m not 100 percent sure about everything around a topic I’ll share. Sometimes I’ll share. Hey, I heard this is happening, but I just want you to know I didn’t read the full article, so I don’t know everything about it. But I do know this. And so I’m always just really transparent about what I know and what I don’t know. And I think that is one of the biggest. We’ve talked about this many times before, but that’s one of the biggest things. As a parent you need to get good at is being humble and what I mean, get good at that. It’s a muscle. You actually have to work because sometimes we feel like we need to have all the answers. And I think that’s a great jeopardy to be a great parent.

Yeah. I mean, the reality is we always are learning, right? And so if we have that attitude as we’re going along in our parenting, our kids, it’s contagious. Our kids are more likely to pick that up as well. You’re more likely to have more productive conversations, less arguing all of the all of those things, too.

And so we don’t want robots as kids that just believe and do every single thing we say. Right. We want thinkers, don’t we? We want people that can think.

And so encouraging and welcoming discussion is so important, even if it’s not the same belief, actually. Yeah. And the reality is, is there are so many issues you can talk about. I would encourage you not to get hung up on just one like there are so many find the things that if you have a hard time, especially if your kids are older, older. Right. And you have a hard time talking about politics because maybe you’re listening to this going, yep, that was what I did wrong.

And I feel super convicted about it. But how do I start now, right? Yeah. I would say try to find something that you have commonality on, discuss it together and find that common bridge. Right. And then move forward.

I love, for example, our daughter Kelsey is a junior at Liberty University and I love talking to her because she is learning different things from her professors and experiences and so forth. And we have such lively discussion and and it’s just so fun. And so teach them earlier than you think you need to. We teach this to parents about everything, because what we naturally think when they’re ready to hear something likelihood they already have seen it or heard it.

Right. So, so much earlier than we actually.

So it’s just so, so er on the side of earlier, it’s you’re the judge of when you do anything. So I don’t know what that means for your kids. You have to discern that. But don’t be a fear based parent that is worried about sharing things with your kids or scared. Maybe it’s just all on you. You’re just scared of how you’re going to talk about it.

Right. And I would say to if you have old some older kids and some younger kids in the home at the same time, I’m just going to warn you, the age that you chose for your older kid might not be the right age for your younger kids because your younger kids, every kid is different. Right. What they’re exposed to is different. But the fact that they have an older sibling in the home alone changes the game because you’ve likely had conversations with your older kids about things. And then maybe a little kid has heard a word or something in a conversation like he’s heard the word abortion or he’s heard the word and he and he doesn’t maybe know what it means, but he’s going to be asking about it a lot sooner than that oldest child in your family probably did, because they might not have heard that conversation. Maybe you and your husband only talked about it on date nights or whatever. Right. And so I just want to I want to give you that little warning that you have to evaluate every kid. Certainly where they are in their spiritual maturity, just in their maturity, right, their intellect, but also their curiosity and what they’ve been exposed to.

I also think it’s when you’re learning, it’s so important to be careful who you and what you’re learning from. You don’t want to have this invincible spirit about you that it doesn’t matter what I look, look at or learn from, it won’t sway me, OK? We all get influenced in the smallest and biggest ways.

We don’t even see sometimes. So it’s really, really important that you’re aware of that. And I would just highly discourage. I’m sure everybody already agrees with this to stay away from mainstream media. As far as if you’re getting political opinions or world affairs.

I mean, different people have different strengths and weaknesses. Right. And so it’s just good to be honest with yourself about that. And if you struggle with having good, solid biblical discernment, then maybe that’s something that you really want to limit for yourself.

So then the question becomes, and I get this all the time. Well, if it’s not mainstream media, where do we find out about things? And I’m just not going to give you a list. I have a list of this parenting group where I have a process, but I’d rather have you look for that one thing tip I’ll give you as I follow actual people on social media, like politicians, the individuals themselves, so that I can see what’s coming out of their mouths, because by the time things get to mainstream media gets distorted, twisted and so forth. And I have a foundational understanding of things that I can see what’s true and not true about what people are saying based on past things and so forth. So I think that’s really important. Proverbs 14:15 says, Thank you, honey. The simple believes every word, but the prudent considers, well, his steps.

Wow, that is so important. We don’t want to be this simple and frankly, it seems like there’s a lot of simple out there, right?

There’s a lot of people that just believe every word from the from the side they’re on, from the direction they’re going, versus really digging for the truth, digging for the truth and seeing no side is perfect. Right. And there’s no perfection out there. The only perfection is in Jesus. And if we’re looking for perfection, then we really don’t understand the gospel. We don’t understand that nobody’s perfect. Everybody is is corrupted. And that’s why we need Jesus right.

For all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. The reality is, is every single person that could ever run for this office or any other office could be declared unsuitable. Oh, yeah.

Unrighteous, unworthy at some point because we’ve all fallen short of the glory of God. And the minute that you think that somebody isn’t is the minute that you’ve fallen into the trap of pride. And so have we made an idol out of the person that we are electing.

And so that goes into the next point, which is teach critical thinking. What is that? That is digging deeper, as Angie was talking about and really looking at multiple information points and being grounded in what the Bible says and then looking at things from a I would call it clear thinking perspective, taking biases out, taking. Now, you can’t completely take biases. I will have them. But it’s really important to try and get to that clear thinking and help your kids do it. But if you don’t practice that, really trying to understand what is true versus just what I care about and what I think the way things should be, or just looking at maybe a couple policies and making a decision on that, for example, to religious what people are saying or what some pundit is saying or maybe what one pastor is saying.

Right. Just following. Like maybe I mean, I don’t know.

I mean, I’m sure there’s probably a pastor out there that’s made a voting guy. It’s like this is how I’m voting on all these issues. And maybe there are some followers that are just like, I’m just going to do what he did.

And I think that’s wonderful. The pastor does that. But we always yeah, we should always be looking at it. We’re questioning and questioning and we want our kids. If you want your kids to stand for truth, they need to be good at questioning what information people are giving them.

That’s right. And I think that critical thinking, clear thinking can lead to a clear conscience, which is what we all want before God. Ultimately, regardless of if you agree with us on who we’re voting for, which is not what this is actually about, this is about so much more than that. This is about what are you teaching your kids? Are you having conversations? Have you been teaching them about these different policies? Are you actually having a teachable heart? Are you teaching your kids what you’re learning? Are you having a critical thinking? Are you teaching them how to critical think? Because critical thinking leads leads to clearer thinking. Clear thinking leads you in a place with a clear conscience before God. If you have a muddled up thinking, you’re confused, you’re unsure and you can’t own something, then of course, you’re going to struggle with having a clear conscience before God. And you might feel less likely to actually mark something on a ballot. Yeah, because, you know, you’re going to be held accountable for that, right? Yeah. But the reality is, is that we have to have a clear conscience before God. We have to pray about this. This is a really big issue and it’s a privilege and an honor. And there are countries out there that they don’t actually get to practice in true honesty, this privilege of being able to vote.

So it’s a great thing, practical thing. And when you’re with your kids is asking maybe you’re talking about something in the news or something that’s happening, and then you can ask them, why do you think this is happening? You see, the traditional parent might just give the answer in their opinion. I think it’s far better to present what’s happening and then ask, why do you think that’s happening? That’s creating critical thinkers versus them listening to a critical thinker.

You and it’s interesting, too. I mean, I watched one of the debates with the kids when you were traveling and one of the kids said, I just don’t like how much they interrupt each other. Mm hmm. And I said, yeah. I mean, they’re really struggling with not being kind. With being rude. Mm hmm. Do all humans struggle with that? At times, yes. Do some struggle with it more than others? Yes.

Because we all have something, a thing, maybe more than one thing that we’re tempted to struggle with. And you don’t just ignore that. You don’t you talk to your kids about that character issue and how that is a turnoff to people. Right. You then you pray for the leaders because they are your leaders. You don’t just condemn them and leave it at that. You go, OK, I see the sin in their life that they’re struggling with and I’m going to pray for them. And I’m going to be a faithful person because I. What God’s called me to yeah, and that right there is teaching your kids faithfulness, it’s teaching them the power of prayer and supplication, which God calls us to be praying for those who are in positions of authority over us. This is a really big deal.

Yeah, that’s a really big deal. And another principal practical thing you can teach your kids is that multiple things can be true at the same time that are very different from each other.

Yeah, OK, so an example of that is let’s talk about covid, for example. Could it be true that this happened in China, which we know that that’s fact first and that China maybe perhaps didn’t try and stop it or let other countries know in time because there was an election coming? Now, this could be called a conspiracy theory, but it could be true. And could there be something about covid? I’m just saying what Christians out there have said, where this is a drive towards vaccinations and immunity and control. Yeah. And control and things like that. Could that be true? That could be true. Could also be true that the president gave a valid effort and is not behind those things.

And it’s trying when early in covid, he was trying to, you know, prevent the spread and so forth, but he is not maybe behind this other agenda. Mm hmm. Because we can mix them all together. Right. Or could it be true that there’s things happening and then they get used for evil afterwards?

I mean, everybody can say, oh, but he did this with when they have hindsight. But we all have to remember where we were at back in January, February and March. None of us really knew what was going on. And I’m sure that he was still also going through the same, like learning and trying to scramble all these things. But lots of different information. People have grace with that. No, they just expect him to be all knowing as if he’s God. But he’s not. He’s a man, a mere man. And and I love your we’ve talked about this many times that multiple things can be true at the same time. So can it be true that covid is a real virus that can be dangerous for old people and immune? Absolutely. Is that seems at the same time, can it be true that it might be wise for older people to wear masks or to be careful and not going to certain places if they have a compromised immune system, while at the same time can also be true that the government is attempting a form of control and exercising potentially an experiment to see how they can get the population to be obedient and wearing masks.

That can be true and also many different things. It also should be true. It’s a political season. And so that’s change, changing how things are handled.

And it could also be considered a fear tactic.

I mean, there are so many you hear so many different things. And can a few of them be true? Yes. Can all of them be true? Actually, they all could be. We’re not saying if they are not. Our point is, do you see how between Isaac and I, we brought up at least six or seven different things that people have talked about regarding covid in masks and how you could sit at a dinner room table with your kids and discuss all these things and more and hear their opinions and get them critically thinking.

And I think when they come up with something, even if you don’t 100 percent agree with it, I think it’s good to let them think about and go. That could be true. Like we want to encourage if a parent who has so much authority just shuts down their ideas, then they’re not going to bring those ideas in the future. So we need to be, remember, if you the more respect you give your kids, the they rise to that level of respect and the more respect they’ll give you, too.

So one example of that would be a parent who maybe is enforcing not wearing masks or a parent who is enforcing wearing masks, either one, versus having the conversation with your kids, talking about all the things that you think are going on, asking them what they think’s going on, asking them what they feel a conviction towards or not, and helping them to make the best, most autonomous decision. Right. Like that would be critical thinking, owning it, living out your conviction, which is a three step process that we need to teach our kids in all kinds of issues.

So let’s go into Christian’s role in politics. OK, so first of all, vote, right? Yes. Regardless who you’re voting for, vote, exercise the right. Let your kids see that. Show them the ballot. You know, how could you talk through it with them on who you’re voting for locally and nationally and all these things? Right. But we need to bring up a recent article that John Pyper wrote. And this is just a small part of what we’re talking about. But I think it’s important because he just wrote an article and we will put it in the show notes. You can read it yourself.

And it talks about really overall encourages, I believe is my opinion after reading it, that people not to vote for Trump that are Christians. Now, he says total credit and a lot of respect for John Piper. He says, I’m not trying to tell anybody who to vote for here, but you’re a leader, John.

Right. So what you say influences tons of Christians, just like what we say influences tons of Christians and we know that. So we know everything we say is going to influence how we’re going to say it, knowing that.

So but here’s the things I got after reading his article. You might get different things, and that’s cool. The moral character is as important as policy or maybe more important than the policies a politician makes.

And his argument behind that, there are some biblical elements to this where moral character of a leader can corrupt the culture of the nation, which is true. Absolutely true. That attitude does reflect leadership. And we quoted that many times and other podcasts. But this is the thing. Who’s who is the one that actually controls your character? Is it your president or is it your lord? Right. So if we’re truly Christians and he’s speaking to people who are supposed Christian Christians, they’re not going to be allowing any man on any pedestal in any position to a.

Fact, their character or their moral integrity, that is something that is molded by the potter because we are the potter’s clay and so we as Christians need to take jurisdiction, responsibility, really man’s responsibility over our own attitudes, over the way that we engage with politics and not follow anyone’s example except what we feel God’s calling us to through scripture.

What a great thing to talk to your kids about this point that he brought up moral character or policy or both, or where do you sign? And by the way, moral character is super important in leadership. But I would never vote for a president because I want him or her to lead me. I’m not looking for someone to lead me, not spiritually, no, I’m looking for someone that is going to make a better country based on the decisions they actually make and the chance that they’re actually going to follow through on those good policy decisions.

I mean, would we love it if there was like an awesome Bible based pastor?

Oh, yeah. The amazing leader that ran that.

Incredible. Yes. But if we’re looking at today’s candidates, the reality is, is we don’t have that option. Right. And so we need to choose. And this is the other reality. Can I just say it? There’s actually only two candidates. And if you think that there are more than that, then you actually believeing a lie.

So if you’re a Christian, that right. Somebody in you’re basically giving a greater chance for Biden and Harris to win because your votes actually not going to count.

I’m just going to say, I believe that’s my opinion, that your vote doesn’t isn’t going to count if you’re voting for one or the other. Right. In the sense I mean, if if it was true that your guy actually had an opportunity when he would have been in the debate, was he in the debate? He has not been in the debates. So the reality is we have two people that are running and we need to evaluate those two and make the wisest, most biblical decision.

It’s like what’s at stake. I can’t have my judgment clouded over what’s going to be best for my kids and grandkids and so forth and the gospel moving forward. Right.

Because oppression actually oppresses the gospel movement for all of the things that that matter. And the most important things with Piper agrees with the gospel advancing, which is the second thing, gospel is more important, the gospel moving forward and more important than protecting America and which we totally agree we totally agree with. However, just so happens, America is one of, if not the biggest country that sends out missionaries around the world, that gives money around the world for good things. And I’m not saying America is perfect. There are far from perfect missionaries coming here that should tell us something.

So but on that note, though, this is the thing is that it’s almost like he’s saying which one should we choose, right? Protecting a nation or the gospel moving forward. But the reality is, is we can actually do both.

It reminds me of Jim Collins quote from the book, Good is great is the tyranny of the or the genius of the. And I’m taking the genius of the hand here. And I think that sometimes people take the tyranny of the awe and it doesn’t have to be in order. There is somebody and we’ll talk about our 20 reasons. We’re voting for Trump. But there’s somebody that actually what they do and what they’ve already done has demonstrated a track record that is unbelievable for things that are biblically true and that defending our freedoms in defending our freedoms, being things that are not biblical but are good things. OK, so we in the third thing I got out of reading the Piper thing article sorry, is Trump’s unrepentant sins disqualify Christians to vote for him. He didn’t actually say that. This is me digesting an article and what I took, what I thought people, Christians would take from it, what I took from it being a Christian. And I think that we need to be careful here. Yeah, he appears to sin, right. For sure. And he has other sins in his past. Yes. Is he is is there anybody here that doesn’t deal with pride listening? Is there anybody here that doesn’t still sin? Is there anybody here that doesn’t deal with past sins? Some horrendous I know I have some horrendous past sins. I became a believer when I was twenty three. Twenty three. And you know what? The my sins didn’t stop. Now, I would say that by having the grace of God and God’s influence in my life way more fruitful way, the less you became a new creation creation, you no longer were walking in the sins that you were walking in right.

But as far as like we all do fall short of the glory of God.

We all fall short and God closed the gap so we can be right with Jesus closes the gaps. We write with God and we all know this stuff. And I just, you know, is there maybe a plank happening in some Christians minds in their own?

I well, I think that really what it comes down to is people having a standard of not being willing to overlook certain things for. For making an actual decision now, I’m not saying that we overlook.

Yeah, like especially when we’re talking about teaching our kids, we actually it’s important that we would talk about the things that we do see. Right. He’s a public figure. I’m talking about the president here. He’s a public figure making sure that our kids know it’s not OK to be prideful. It’s not OK to treat people the way that he treats people sometimes. Right. It’s just talking about the vulgarity, for example, certain situations saying, OK, how could he have said this differently in a tweet that wouldn’t have been so attacking? Right. And having those conversations is important with your kids because you don’t want them to look up to him and want to mimic him. So it is important that we draw attention to this moral character is a really, really important issue. But at the end of the day, is there is there any man who can have both moral character and have the ability to fight? I’m going to say fight for the policies that are actually going to impact and and protect, not just freedoms. I’m not talking about freedoms here. I think that sometimes Christians have made an idol out of liberty and out of freedom because there are a lot that we don’t actually have that people think that we have. And I’ve talked about this before in previous podcast. But the reality is, is what what are we doing today to do our best not to insure, but to do our best to have a future for our kids, for our grandkids, even for ourselves when we’re in our 80s and 90s where we have the ability to go and worship together in a church building? Yeah, yes. I get that that is actually a privilege and that other people can’t do that in other countries. But how we vote today actually impacts that one thing.

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And so here’s the thing. A lot of times he’s brash. He comes from the business world on a big level. Not saying that everybody in the business is like that, but he a lot of times when I what sometimes I’m like, oh, that could have been said better. I could have been done better. I definitely have those feelings. But you know what? I think people feel that about me, especially when I was in the business world, too, and these kinds of things. And nobody’s perfect. But here’s a guy that from the beginning, the other side was spying on him in his personal life. Who knows? Maybe in his personal home in Trump Tower, he was spied on? I think so. The FBI and the Justice Department was completely corrupt. Not everybody. There’s great people working at those places. So if you’re listening and work there, I’m not talking about you. But overall, there was corruption happening at the highest levels and spying in all these things. And there was this principle that happens. Disillusionment happens in these uncertain times, which is reality distortion by the by the left and the other side. Not all of them, but some of them. Right. Which is the reality of their own evildoing or wrongdoing. They blame the other side for it. And then they hide it.

Right. Like right now. Just even the blame game that was happening in the last debate, right, about where are you getting your money from China.

And it literally was coming from both sides to where as a spectator watching it, if you haven’t dug a little bit and understood, you could easily become deceived by by either. Right.

So it is a fact that he was spied on. You can’t argue that. You just can’t, OK, that there was FISA abuse and that this was directed from Hillary and even Biden was part of it. Right. You can’t deny that there’s problems with Hunter Biden in the relationships of foreign affairs. We can’t deny that right now. There’s there’s too much evidence. The Russian hoax, which actually the other side was more having an issue being influenced by Russia in Trump was not. It appears that was proven. OK, so in a court of law. So it is the delusion. So part of me sees the Trump could be better sometimes with part of me in like a way to defend yourself. You don’t know. We don’t know what he’s dealing with off the camera. And then he gets on the camera. And we do know some of the things he’s dealing with in the media hates him. They hate what he’s doing. They hate what he stands for. They hate all these things. And there’s 20 reasons I think we should not hate we should embrace that we’re going to talk about. So there’s a big delusion. There’s a big divide. And I really think they’re looking at this. There’s a principle that if you create enough division, if you create enough hatred, then fear, enough fear, people lose common sense and they just want to attack. When hatred comes in. We are we are not rational anymore. And I think a lot of that’s happening throughout our country. You can just see it. And, you know, I part of the reason we moved listen to the relocation program, I guess part of the reason we moved away from Oregon is because property rights weren’t being upheld anymore. Downtown Portland, these poor business owners, they’re allowing people to destroy their businesses and livelihoods is lawlessness lawlessness? I’m like biblical. Why would I want to buy a house in Oregon if they’re not upholding property rights? Property is a big deal. That is the beginning of the end for a civilization. If people aren’t allowed to own a home and have it be protected.

The reality is, is that I’m going to go a little off topic for a sec. The thing that has been so alarming to me is that there’s an entire I mean, obviously group, not just generation, but it seems like there’s a specific generation that has specifically been deceived into believing that socialism is actually the way that we should go. Right. As a country. And I literally go, do you not see every other country that has been socialistic and communist like look at them or any of them thriving? Would you ever want to live full time in any of those countries? Is there prosperity there? Is there freedom there? No, it’s oppression. It’s the deception is so incredibly thick, you can cut it with a knife. And it makes me sick to my stomach because the reality is that a lot of that was actually in Portland.

Yeah. And since you’re on this, one of the things I’ve noticed is that the more the more government when society breaks down, there’s this there’s this feeling of we need more government. OK, but the reality is, if you look throughout history in other countries is when there’s problems in society, more government isn’t the solution. In fact, it furthers the problems in society. Take personal responsibility. I really look at President Trump as the president of encouraging personal responsibility and smaller government government where needed, but only where needed. And that’s super important. Now, another thing that’s interesting to think about is when people don’t believe in God. They we all were made by God, and so we all in us have a desire for a supreme good authority in our lives. I think about that for a second. A lot of people are putting that pressure on the presidential election and they’re putting the presidential election and they’re putting that on government. So if I don’t believe in God, then I want government to help me, OK? And that’s an overreliance, maybe even subconsciously. Wow, that’s really powerful. And so but if we believe in God, then we know what is in power and we tend to less want government to rely on government. It’s just interesting thing I’ve noticed you may disagree with me. That’s totally fine, but it’s something to think about. OK, so no for the reality on Trump. So here we go.

Ok, so we’re going to Rapid Fire through some of these and then we’ll go back and maybe talk about a few of them more in depth. Does that sound good or how do you go about this?

I think we just rapid fire and talked briefly about some of them.

So here are the 20 issues, right. Policies and issues that Isaac and I have talked about. A lot of Christians kind of get hung up on one issue, that issue. Yeah. And Christians always like they’ll say, I’m voting on this one issue, which is the pro-life issue.

So we have 19 before we get to pro-life.

That’s right. So there are 20 issues that we have been really focusing on with our kids. There are actually others that we’ve been focusing on as well. But we’re going to just share 20 of them with you.

And real quick, we don’t just we didn’t bombard our kids with all of these at once. We’ve been talking about these things for years. Why one at a time as issues come up in the world, we’re talking about immigration and the war and things like that. As the issues come up, we’re talking about the economy and what works and, you know, these kinds of things. So I just don’t want you to bombard your family all at once with, you know, that’s really wise.

The other thing I just want to I want to make really clear let’s talk for a second about moral character does actually impact policy. This is something we do agree with Piper on. And the fact that if someone is standing for policy, are they going to be true to their word and actually do what they say they’re going to do? Because that’s a character thing. Right. But that’s not something that you can judge. You can’t judge a man’s heart. Only God can judge man’s heart. What can man do? Man can look at outward appearance, what his outward appearance in regards to actually following through with policy. It’s what their track record is. And what have we seen from Trump? What have we seen from Biden? What what is the fruit of them being in ruling right. In authority? And we are going to be talking some of that stuff is in our 20 reasons. Right.

Because the reality is, is yes, Trump is an unrepentant sin and a few really big issues like being vulgar in his talk or being prideful like those are big issues. But then there’s this element where when it comes to policy, which is what we vote on. Right. We vote on policy.

He actually does what he says he’s going to do.

Yeah, but the media doesn’t actually bring attention to the lot of the things that he has done and done. Well, and we’re going to talk about those two.

Yeah. So let’s just talk about education first. There is there’s things he’s done that supports a parent’s right to where their kids are educated, for example, letting them shift money to charter schools and things like that. And so that gives freedom of choice to parents. Parents should have rights on how their kids are educated. Now, is any policy perfect? No, there’s some ripple effects that less funding to public schools and so forth. Well, hey, let’s let supply and demand work. And if public schools want to be in demand, let’s make them better. There you go. So I know it’s not as simple as that. I get it. But overall, he’s given more choice to parents, which we think is super important. Right. Standing for justice versus lawlessness.

This one is very personal in my mind, just because I. I think well, I know that God wired me to be a high justice person. Right. So when I see injustice happening, I do I the mama bear kind of comes out me. And I think that’s just kind of how God has wired me. But when I see stereotyping happening, for example, to police officers now, are some police officers wicked and working in the wrong. Yes, but are all? No.

Most are not.

And the reality is, is there is a stereotyping that’s happening. We talked about this the other night where literally that badge of honor is being ripped off of police officers and what’s being put and replace disgrace.

And that’s a lot of why they serve and protect that is because they want to do good for society. It’s why they took the position and actually got low pay for it.

If you take that away from them, that’s horrible. And some of them get paid pretty well because overtime and things like that. But but but you take the honor away. That’s a. No big deal, so we really believe and we’ve mentioned property rights and we need to have justice, we need to have people that obey the law and politicians that back up the laws that are already in place. We’re seeing an erosion of that. We’re not seeing any erosion of that with Trump. He is absolutely backing up the law.

Well, even when in when Biden is asked in debates, are you for law or lawlessness? He doesn’t he doesn’t answer. He actually doesn’t respond. And so the reality is, is there is chaos. When there’s chaos, then government can come in control.

And the people within the the country look at that as they are thankful for the authority coming in because there’s so much creating fear. There is a need in the world.

There is a philosophy out there that if you create chaos, you can gain power. And so that could be part of why we’re not seeing that.

It is we’re saying it could be it could be the our point as far as lawlessness and justice goes, is justice is biblical, lawlessness is not biblical. And this is a big issue that frankly, I don’t remember this being an issue in any other presidential election until now. And so this is a pivotal time to be teaching your kids about this. Does that mean that we just brush the issues of wickedness in regards to justice under the carpet? No, justice is justice. Justice for all actually is what we stand for.

So amen. And the next one is fighting opioid opioid problem in America, which is huge. And by the way, we’ll put this in the resources, encourage parents to come under the podcast, which is Wayne Grudum, a great Christian author and theologian.

I believe he wrote systematic theology and so forth. We don’t side with him on everything, obviously, but he did write a really good article on 30 Reasons He’s for Trump. I’m going to put that in there and you’ll see that he has the same ones as us, but more and so. But you’ll see, this is where I got that fighting opium problem. Six billion going towards the allocated towards us.

That’s awesome. And you see that on the front lines of the news? Oh, probably not. Yeah, that’s unfortunate. Yeah. The next one is fighting sex trafficking, which can I just say with all of the allegations that, by the way, try to get censored because of the liberal media, they try to prevent this from becoming exposed. But the issues with Epstein, the Clintons, multiple people on the left side being very involved, I’m sure that there are people on the right also that are guilty of this horrendous act as sex trafficking.

But the reality is that we have some very unfortunate things happening. For example, the bill that was just passed in California. Right. There is a real need for us to have deep conversations with our kids, especially if they are older.

Right. If they’re ever going out. If your kid is old enough to ride their bike in their neighborhood alone, they need to be warned about sex trafficking.

Super important. And Trump has done an incredible job. They’re rounding up tons of people. There’s investigations happening. And it’s just you wont see that in the media much, but he’s very, very much doing a good job.

You know, on that note, I just saw this last week. I think it was Ali Stucky. She posted a press conference that was held because of some amazing grounds that Trump has made on the efforts of fighting sex trafficking. And they held a press conference about it. But what was so disturbing is that there were only a few press that actually went to that because they don’t want to give him credit. And then when they asked the press if they had any questions, no one had any questions.

And they went, oh, hey, there’s no questions. All right, then. OK, good.

And then they left. It was so ridiculous. Any other president would have been slapped on the front of newspapers there. It would have been all over Twitter, all social media, but they censored it.

Yeah. So the next one is the amount of judges he’s put in place. He took every opportunity to do what he’s supposed to do and putting judges in place when there’s vacancies, one of the acts of a president when they are in office. So over one hundred and fifty judges, two of which are Supreme Court justices, it’ll be three shortly if Amy Barrett when Amy Barrett is confirmed, which it looks like that’s going through. So and he’s very much looking for judges that are conservative and for the life of human beings.

Right. Which is interesting. So when you when it comes down to if you were to judge someone’s moral character based upon their actions so far, we have someone who is fighting drug addiction, someone who’s fighting sex trafficking, someone who’s trying to put in righteous judges that are going to be voting for life. Someone who’s standing for justice and not lawlessness and someone who is actually for parental rights regarding education. And so what’s interesting about this, if we as humans, it says that we can’t judge a man’s heart. Right. So we don’t know if he’s been repentant or not. Right. I mean, obviously, he still proactively struggling with some things. Right. But the reality is, is we can only judge what actions he has taken.

And here’s somebody that’s already taken massive action in a good way on all of these things. Right.

And a lot of it’s just not being publicized.

Right. So trade deals super important because there are some past trade deals that were bad with China. And the NAFTA thing with Canada and Mexico redid those things. And it took some serious strength that no other president has had in modern history.

I mean, I’ll just say the way that he confronts specific issues and is willing to not back down so that he can protect the American economy, not the job of the president.

Yeah, and businesses are what create jobs and jobs are what supply income for families. That’s right. So it is so important that we have fair trade deals and now we do protecting U.S. businesses. Intellectual property tariffs were put on China because of this. There’s a couple other things, but that was one of the reasons and it makes it fair if they’re going to steal, well, they’re going to pay a lot more when they try and import those products.

There you go. Which again, is just.

Yeah, right. I haven’t heard a lot about ISIS lately.

Interesting. So we don’t know if that’s because the government is or the media is potentially censoring good things that Trump has done or if he already has taken out a lot of them. Well, it’s not as big of an issue.

We do know that a lot of them have been taken out, that there was a very proactive effort to do it in a very efficient way.

But ISIS has been deeply minimized and as opposed to what was happening during the Obama and Biden administration. Right. And so we know that if Biden was to be put into election, we already know his stance on relationships with those groups.

And how about religious freedom?

There’s laws he’s passed that give businesses more freedom in choosing who they serve and so forth. And, you know, if there’s things they decide to do for religious reasons, they’re more protected. I think that’s super, super important.

So especially for generations down the road, I mean, when it comes to religious freedom, that then trickles into every other issue.

Yeah. Protecting boys and girls bathrooms. You might think that’s why are you talking about that? I go, well, there was a law by the Obama Biden administration that allowed a person to decide, no matter what gender they are, which bathroom they want to use, which could potentially be dangerous. It was dangerous. In fact, story after story were coming out once that was passed of danger and people being scared to go to the bathroom and so forth. And so now whatever you are born with, boy or girl, that’s the bathroom you are supposed to go in. I think that’s super important. Fighting media censorship.

It’s a big deal. I mean, the reality is, is there is media censorship. We’ve been talking about this for a long time. I’ve personally experienced it for many years. You’ve also experienced we together prime ministries experience that. We know many people who have also experienced this on a very large front, whether their YouTube channel is frozen or taken down temporarily or their Instagram handles, whatever. Right. Like it happens to people. And the reality is that Trump is fighting media censorship. One thing I love about this also in regards to constitutional and Bill of Rights type stuff is right now what you see is Trump’s own children, Ivanka and Jared.

Yeah, they’re in the news right now because I think it’s New York’s Times Square, New York City, Times Square.

There’s billboards up or digital billboards and they’re taking quotes from them and changing them and misusing it and changing what their meaning is with their image, which is defamation.

And, yeah, you can’t take someone’s content and then put it in a different context. That’s called lying and false light. And so now they are potentially going to court for defamation to defend themselves, which I absolutely stand behind, obviously. And so I think it’s great that they’re fighting.

If you don’t stand up for the Bill of Rights, the Bill of Rights don’t exist in actuality. And so great thing country. We have freedom of speech, but we don’t have freedom to slander. OK, so there’s a big difference. And I love that the administration fights for that.

And this campaign for truth actually is what that is. They’re standing for truth. So Israel’s the next one. OK, this is a really big deal. Yeah. God’s word actually has something to say about this, so I’m going to share just briefly, if you wanted to go to numbers, chapter 24, verse nine, this is what God says about those who bless Israel, says, blessed is he who blesses you, talking about Israel, blesses Israel and curses he who curses you.

And Trump has been a friend of Israel the more so than.

Well, the previous administration was not a friend, actually. They were the most unfriendly. The Obama Biden administration was the most unfriendly to Israel. You look back and see why. And now they moved the embassy, which was bold moves all them all other Republican presidents promise that or a lot of them and never did. He actually follows through on what he says he’s going to do. And the the United Arab Emirates now has direct flights into Israel and vice versa. And our friends and a couple other Arab nations came in in the fold that was negotiated by Trump.

Just unbelievable things that move the embassy from Tel Aviv to Israel. And so there have been many big things that Trump has actually done action wise to show loyalty and a help to Israel. If you want more verses on that, you can go to Genesis Chapter 12, verse three, where God is also talking about blessing those who bless Israel.

So tax cuts shifting gears here that I just put a note. That’s a belief in people. And some people are like wait the rich are going to get richer and it benefits the rich. Well, wait a second. Yeah, nothing’s perfect. You have to make things, decisions that create the most overall good. Some people are going to abuse it. But you know what? If people who have money pay less taxes, that’s usually a good thing because they’ll hire more people. And that’s exactly what happened in our economy during Trump for many other reasons to deregulation in some ways and so forth. But that’s a belief in the personal responsibility people that when they get more money, they’re going to use it well and they’re going to purchase things in economy, which helps the whole system. It’s super, super important, whereas the more government philosophy believes that you can’t trust people. So we just need to take their money and more of it because we are the trustworthy ones.

All right. The next one on our list is prescription drugs. Isaac.

Oh, yeah. So he’s just dramatically brought down the price of prescription drugs where you used to have to, like, go to Canada and get your prescription drugs and then come back over there cheaper. Now, in the United States, that is increasingly happening where they’re much cheaper, which is important. And also the economy. Right. Unemployment’s way down, which is different than tax cuts for the economy prior to covid was doing extraordinarily well, unheard of. Amazing. Absolutely amazing. And then covid hit it and then but it’s still bouncing back. I can’t believe how resilient our economy is with covid and everything is of our.

That’s incredible, too. Yeah, it could be really bad right now if the Biden administration was in office right now.

Oh, as soon as we would be doing if if Biden wins, the stock market’s going to tank. Everything changes, like everything regarding the economy changes the policies of the other side just do not work for a thriving economy. OK, that’s that’s my opinion.

Yep. That one’s your opinion. Obama mandate.

That’s to do with the health care.

And Trump got rid of the Obama mandate, which it required people to pay massive fines if they weren’t on Obamacare or weren’t on that specific type of insurance. You no longer have a choice. You have to so fine if you don’t have it.

So, again, the president of personal responsibility in letting people have choices, which is important, not forcing fines on people for not doing something that’s maybe not a strong military where we don’t believe like we should just go to war and things like that at all. No, but we do believe in protecting ourselves. Strong military. It was super depleted before. So building that up is really important. And guess what? You know, Trump hasn’t declared any wars in his first four years, which I think is a first in a long time. So. Wow. So anyway, so that’s interesting. It doesn’t mean that that may not happen, may happen in the next four years, I don’t know. But we need to protect our country. Immigration is another one. The wall and all this that I think is so important. You have to know who’s coming your country. And we should bring people in through a process that brings the best people into our country. That is always the best. I know there I think of the story of my grandma on my dad’s side and she came into the country with her four kids when they were young by herself and did a proper immigration process. And her whole family has been a great contribution to the United States and thankful for that process. There’s a process in place we should use it, and the wall keeps things safe, covid response that’s being attacked big time right now because, you know, that’s what they need to attack and there’s not a lot else to do.

Ok, well, what’s interesting, too, is that they’re attacking it. But yet here am from my perspective, I don’t think he could have done anything better. I mean, he would have been blamed if he didn’t shut down the economy for a while. He would have been blamed. If he did, they keep going back and forth on what they condemn. So whatever he does, they condemn. That’s actually the game that we’re in right now.

And the reality is, is he did care and he did shut down the economy and he was trying to help the economy by sending out stimulus checks. Right.

Let’s have a good memory, too. When he decided to close down flights from China, the left, Biden, Nancy Pelosi, were freaking out on him, all these things. And then when he started closing down the economy, Nancy Pelosi is I remember seeing this in on my Twitter feed. She is like in Chinatown in San Francisco, saying everything’s fine, everything’s fine, no problems. You can be out and about. And then the story switches later. So no matter what he’s doing, well, they just switch and say he’s doing it wrong right now. If they said it was right before, which is what you just said. So he actually had an early response that wasn’t popular and then he is done. Not perfect, but I think he’s done the best he can on a very complex and weird situation with, frankly, a lot of bad information, including coming from the scientific community, some good information, some bad information, really hard.

I mean, this is one of those situations where you’re responsible for an entire nation. Huge, huge nation. Biggest nation. Right. And something happens that has never happened here before. And you are getting information from all different places and you’re trying to discern what is true and what is not true. Such a tough job. Yeah. And I do believe that reopening the economy and believing the best and trying to do these things and then and then flipping it and putting the power into the governor’s hands.

Right. So that because they know they’re they’re supposed to know their communities better and what’s going on. Right.

But the reality is he he has been doing what he what I think is the best that he could do right now. He got covid right. He survived.

And so for people to be condemning him, the biggest thing is you can’t make a worse problem because you have a problem. So by shutting things down and being too controlling about covid depression, drug use, businesses feeling suicidal, financial debt, devastation, suicides, all of these things are real and happening. And if you if you hurt, if you control things too much, it causes problems, make good recommendations, personal responsibility. One of the reasons we love Idaho, they believe in personal responsibility and people and making recommendations, but not overly controlling people unless you’re it’s a franchise in Idaho, like Ashley Furniture, which was kicked out of and some others here. But there you go. So finally, if you are a one issue voter and you’re voting for Trump on pro-life, well, here’s number 20 pro like you would have to dismiss the other 19 reasons. No, if that was the only case. But if you disagree with us on all the other 19, then a pro-life is a pretty big deal. And he’s put all those judges in, most of which are more conservative and would lean towards pro-life, which is a big effort.

He has restricted government funding towards abortion. He has been vocal. He’s the first president in the State of the Union to talk deeply about these issues, which is big. And I think you have a scripture for us. Right, to do.

It’s the the very obvious. Some one thirty nine, 13 through 16, which says four. You formed my inward parts. You covered me in my mother’s womb. I will praise you for I’m fearfully and wonderfully made marvelous are your works and that that my soul knows very well. My frame was not hidden from you when I was made in secret and skillfully wrought in the lowest parts of the earth. Your eyes saw my substance being yet unformed, and in your book they were all written the days fashioned for me when as yet there were none of them.

Amen. And in Trump’s State of the Union address, where he was consistently mocked by the left acting childish, in my opinion, when he gave a great speech. Actually, regardless of which side you’re on, he gave a great speech. In fact, here some of his words, “to defend the dignity of every person. I’m asking the Congress to pass legislation to prohibit the late term abortion of children who can feel pain in a mother’s womb. He said, let us work together to build a culture that cherishes innocent life, he added, and let us reaffirm a fundamental truth. All children, born and unborn, are made in the holy image of God.”

So not only does he say it in an unprecedented way, but he’s backing it with the things he is doing right. It’s a really big deal.

So you guys, you know, as we are getting towards the close of this podcast, there is a scripture that we just wanted to encourage you with. That’s in First Timothy chapter two verses one through two that says, therefore, I exhort.

I exhort, first of all, that supplications prayers, intercessions and giving of thanks be made for all men, for kings and for all who are in authority, that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all goodness and reverence for this is good and acceptable in the sight of our God and savior who desires all men to be saved and come to the knowledge of the truth. Listen, when I think about even having the ability.

The ability, the freedom to live a godly, peaceable, quiet, reverent life. The reality is that everything that Biden and his that left side stands for is the in opposition to living a peaceable, quiet, gentle, reverent and even righteous life.

Yeah, and the thing that’s so hard about this is that you literally, if you are choosing to I’m going to say something very bold. This is my opinion. But Biblically, I cannot believe that any Christian would vote for Biden or the left side. For for many reasons, yeah, all of the reasons that we just listed, but the fact that there is also this element that our leaders who are put in position. Should be wanting to create an environment for us to be able to lead a quiet, peaceable life in all godliness and reverence.

Now, you might find that hard if you’re if you’re questioning Trump and you have a hard time with how he communicates and all these things seeing that, he creates that. But if you look at all the policies, actually what he does actually does create this.

It protects us from being imposed upon or oppressed. Yeah, because the other laws are oppressive. It’s about freedom. So thanks for joining us. See you next time.

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