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Welcome to Courageous Parenting Podcast, a weekly show to equip parents with biblical truth on raising confident Christian kids in an uncertain world.

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Org. Join us as we start another important conversation about effective parenting in a fallen world. Welcome back to the Courageous Parenting Show. We are doing it from Brave Books headquarters with the CEO and founder, Trent Talbert. Great to have you on the show. Thank you.

Thank you all for being here.

Yeah, we got to kind of see the secret offices and all the creative work that’s happening.

Behind the scenes.

Yes, it’s pretty cool.

It’s a lot of work that goes into it.

Okay, so I was actually surprised by the amount of people on your team. Why don’t you share a little bit about how that built?

Yeah. 42 people, um, started just with me and a couple others, uh, in February of 2021. So whenever I made the decision to leave my practice as an ophthalmologist and, and dive into, uh, into children’s books and, uh, somehow it worked out. By the grace of God.

That’s an industry shift.

Well, it’s it reminds me of something when God was telling me, Isaac, you’re going to go teach parenting and support your family of nine. And I’m like, okay, good thing you’re God, because I couldn’t do that. Yeah. And that kind of reminds me of what you’re talking about here. You’re going to leave your very successful thing and go, you know, do a children’s books business, right? I bet there was some feelings inside of how is this going to support my family.

There’s some feelings inside me, some feelings inside my wife because I. So the story is, you know, practicing ophthalmologist. I was saved, right? Like New Year’s right around New Year’s of 2019. And then, um, met my wife and we quickly got engaged, got married in the summer of 2019, got pregnant, had our first kid in the summer of 2020. And so this is like peak Covid. Oh yeah, everything’s crazy. And it’s sort of like whenever you get a new car, you see that new car, you know, you get a new car because you’re like, oh, that’s cool. Nobody has that. But then you get it and you start seeing it everywhere. And so Charlotte was born and I started to see this whole war on our kids everywhere I went. You’re walking into Barnes and Noble. There’s the indoctrination table. Yes. Uh, the when? When she was born, like the first a week of her life, the trailer for the film cuties came out, uh, anti-racist baby was number one book on Amazon. My best friend was his nine year old daughter was gifted the latest Nancy Drew book, which had a trans character in it. And just like it was like every day there’s something new. And and then for whatever reason, I just couldn’t get this whole issue out of my head. And the idea for brave started to crystallize and then decided, um, about February 2021, to to go for it. And and yeah, the Lois just had his hand on, on brave like, throughout the whole whole company. It’s crazy because, you know, you have an idea and you think, oh, it’s so needed. Everything will work out was so difficult and challenging because because we decided to do everything, like, completely different than every other publishing company. Yeah, it’s like a publishing company. They typically just make a book and they put it on Amazon or Ingram and then they distribute it. But we decided to do a subscription model. So that means your own website and your own marketing and your own PR and your own fulfillment center and all that.

Customer service.

Because. Yeah.

Yeah, well, I was going to bring that up because you’re the first person I’ve seen to really create a creative business model that sustainable to support not only staff in this headquarters and the warehouse and everything, but to support the large scale impact that’s happening. And that’s really I think I’d love to hear that’s what’s intriguing to us, because on a subscription model, it’s not just someone buying a book, it’s they’re getting a book with a different story, with a different lesson every single month. And their children are being raised in a different way because of the influence of that. And so I think that’s really a genius model. And it’s it’s kind of part of the parallel economy, I would say of like, hey, this is happening. We’re going to do something better, we’re going to create something better. And there’s so many good companies doing that now, which is really encouraging. But, you know, I think a lot of times when that happens to people, it’s like, yeah, but how can I get it done? How can I do it? So what really made you like, we’re going to do this? It was.

A combination. Once I get something in my head, it’s like I just. Itch. I got scratch and and I think that’s part of it. But then two, I was an ophthalmologist doing cataract surgery and enjoying my life. And, um, so to leave that was a big decision. And I was recently married and have a new kid. So I didn’t want to be a fool and just, like, go off of motion. So there was some rationale behind it. Primarily, it was in 2020, the American Christian family lost trust in most institutions and in mainstream media education, children’s entertainment and the children’s entertainment is what stuck out to me because I was like, I need to trust the content I put in front of my kid because I can’t vet every movie or show. I can’t read every book. That doesn’t make sense. So trust has to be crucial. And in 2020, it just like evaporated. I saw that as an opportunity to to go and capture that trust for the American Christian family. And I didn’t see anybody doing it.

And. And you were a new believer.

Yeah.

Relatively. Yeah. Within a couple years. Yeah. And a new dad. Yeah.

Right on. Yeah. A lot going on. Um, saw that opportunity and I thought I could do it. I didn’t realize how hard it was. And then. And I’ve come to learn that it, like, very little had to do with me. It was just like, just the hand of God just selected all these, like, perfect people at the perfect time to make it all happen. And I’ve just been, like, having fun rolling with it.

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Well, it’s really neat too, because you’re partnering with people like Kirk Cameron and Dan Crenshaw and people from different spectrums of the Christian world that have notability. And here they are telling these stories, and there’s always, uh, you know what I love about it? Angie was talking about this with me, too, is there’s always a villain. There’s a.

Villain in every single.

Book, and there’s always.

A. But there is a villain that we’re fighting in real life. Right? But the Bible even says in Ephesians six that we battle not against flesh and blood, but against the principalities of the darkness of this age. Right. And so that’s actually visually made clear to kids through the illustrations and the books where they’re using their imagination to see this villain, whether it’s the culture, the vulture. Right. It’s like it’s a classic, which is I mean, that’s classic because he is in the culture, right? Like for sure in the culture. And so to bring these things to light, not only is it like allowing kids to use their imagination and see the darkness that they’re fighting in the spiritual realm, because that is a biblical truth, and we want our kids to grow up being able to discern that, pray against it, be willing to stand strong against it. Be willing to say no to things, say yes to the right things, and stand firm and be an example. Make change in the world. That’s what most parents want, right? But when you’re going through these different books and there’s these missions that they’re on, one of my favorite parts I was telling Isaac is at the very end, it’s like they’re recruited. The heroes are recruited to be a part of the team, which that’s what the body of Christ is like. We’re all members of the body of Christ, and we’re supposed to be a team collaborating together, making him all for making him known and for the glory of God. Right. But you’re tackling the current event issues that are most relevant to today through these books with different people. How do you find the people that you’re collaborating with, or how are you getting connected with them?

Uh, well, early on we just we sent out cold emails and things like that. Now, you know, we’ve got people coming to us because people want to be a part of, of, of the saga because they’re like, oh, my kids love these books. I want to be I want to be a part. Yeah. So that’s a big part of it. Or, you know, if there’s a particular person that we have in mind and we want to partner with, we’ll reach out. Yeah, we’ll reach out through other authors. You know, we try to try to make sure every author has a great experience working with us. Um, yeah. That’s how we’ve partnered with all these all these different people. And then we’ve got a really cool collaborative process because obviously they can’t just write a story in our universe.

No, because your universe is right here.

Right? Right.

So for those of you watching the YouTube of Courageous Parenting, we’ve got this amazing mural behind us here on the wall of Freedom Island. Tell us about this.

So this is this is our universe that every story takes place in and every book. You know, we’re a subscription. The Freedom Island Book club, every book that comes out takes place in this universe. And we’re telling an overarching narrative with the same protagonist and antagonist. So Team Brave are the good guys, and the legends of Freedom Island legends sort of represent our founding Fathers team brave represents. The hopefully the young generation that’s standing up to protect Freedom Island. Freedom Island represents America, um, or the West or whatever. Right? Then, you know, we we have the villains, Blackheart culture, the vulture, Lester, you know, all these fun, fun, fun characters. And but what makes our books unique is that they’re not staying alone. The what ends up happening is the kids fall in love with the world. The characters, you know, the four by six poster they get hang in their room. That’s my kids.

Favorite. Yes.

And so, you know, I just had this intuition early on that the books cannot be preachy. They have to. You have to start with capturing the imagination. And you do that through fun things like a four by six poster with stickers that they unlocking characters and Freedom Island flags.

There’s something for every kind of kid in that book because of all the activities.

Yeah, yeah. And then so if you capture their imagination and their attention, that’s the challenge. That’s the real challenge. And then you give them a story that that parents can use as a framework to really get into the lesson. Then you’re just making the parents job 100 times easier because because you’ve captured their attention, you’ve given the parents a story which which, you know, you can say, hey, you know how Kevin was feeling a little, um, you know, like he didn’t belong. Well, well, well, you know, that’s normal feelings. But listen, just like Kevin was, was created to be an elephant. You’re. God doesn’t make mistakes. You were created exactly how you were supposed to be made. And God doesn’t make mistakes. You know, some of these topics, they’re hard to talk about, you know, if you’re just speaking in conceptual language. But we we try to make the parents job easy by giving them a story and characters to talk about, and then the games in the back of the book to really dive into these topics deeper.

Well, I think it’s proactive parenting when you’re reading books regularly that have lessons like that, because a lot of times in this world it’s like instant gratification. So a lot of people like once there’s a problem, I’m going to go work on that problem. Once I have a behavior issue, it’s like reactive parenting. I go and I want to get help with it. But instead, what needs to be is proactive parenting. And that’s what the books do. Because maybe the kid isn’t feeling lonely right now or left out, but because they read that book before that happened, they’re being prepared and really, truly equipped before it happens to respond correctly. And now that experience becomes a signature experience of responding well, just like what happened in the book. And they’re identifying with that, and their identity is becoming stronger and their confidence is becoming stronger.

Yeah, yeah. You’re not waiting until there’s a mind virus that’s in there and you’re trying to get it out.

Detox it out.

Or do surgery.

Like you were. Right? Exactly.

You’re instilling truth, a solid foundation that helps them discern what’s truth versus lies whenever they write, whenever they get out. Because sheltering our kids is a failing strategy. Totally. We can’t. We can’t just win by sheltering.

Fear based parenting.

Yes. Yeah. So, you know, one of the great things about it is you’re creating a movement. I’m curious how many books have been sold so far. Do you know?

I don’t know, I would assume we’re at probably close to a million or over a million.

Amazing, amazing. So how many books.

Have come out?

36 or 37. Yeah. Right around there. Yeah.

So, so it’s it’s really a movement because you’re enlisting people and you’re addressing these cultural issues that are hot button topics that the culture says are, you know, either bad to talk about or definitely bad to talk against taboo. And you’re giving you’re not only arming the next generation, equipping kids, but you’re while parents are reading those stories, you’re equipping them too well.

And it’s actually bringing an alignment within their own family cultures, because the parents are talking with the kids and helping lead them and how they should think about that specific issue. So one of the things, one of the missions that we have with Courageous parenting is that parents would be raising and equipping confident Christian kids for an uncertain world, but that like when they grow up, there’s not obligatory family Thanksgivings, but people really like walking and living in community with each other because they actually like each other. Not just love each other because they’re family, but they like who their kids are and their kids like who their parents are. Which means there needs to be alignment in politics, in faith, in all of these things. Right. And so but when you have outside influences and peer pressure influences guiding your kids, influencing them away, you need tools to help you. Like relationship is really the best, right? That’s one of the best things we need to have in our toolbox, as well as the Bible and the Lord, obviously. But we also need to be talking about these things that are happening in the world, not just pretending like they aren’t existing.

Mhm, mhm. And you’re a father of three kids. You’re, you’re taking care of your family, you’re leading your family and so forth. Uh, which is amazing. But you know, as you’re running this and God is using you to get this out there, what have you learned as maybe some of the challenges of parenting today? Like what are you seeing the bird’s eye view. Because, yeah, you’re an intentional survive. Yeah. It was like.

Three. Wait a minute. You just said you had your first a couple of years ago.

Three, two and one. When will this podcast air? I have before.

What, uh, what are you seeing, though, through the brave books? What are you seeing? Some of the the biggest challenges parents are dealing with as you get feedback and you see what’s going on out there. Um.

I mean, you know, just the the family is so under attack with, um, in so many different ways. It’s it’s hard. We’re isolated. You know, we throughout all of history, we’ve grown up, you know, close to our extended family in community. You know, now we’re we’re isolated from our extended family. It’s community so, so lacking. So, so parents just on their own. That’s true. And when you when you’re on your own, you get in just like survival mode to where, you know, I just want to get through the day. How can I get through the day? All right, I know I can just turn the TV on, you know, and escapism.

Yeah.

And it just creates week. It puts you in a vulnerable, weak position as a parent. I think it lowers like your level of thinking from, man, I really want to teach my kid, you know, like have all these big ideas for your kids because you’re coming from a position of strength to know it’s just me. I don’t have any grandparents. I don’t have any uncles, aunts, you know, and don’t have a strong community. I just want to survive. I want to get home through the day until my until my husband gets home. And then we’ll tackle, we’ll clean up, we’ll tackle things together, and then we’ll just get the kids down. And who victory. You know, it’s like. It’s like, I think.

You’re speaking to a lot of people right now.

They’re like, yes, finally somebody who understands.

Yeah, I think that’s a big one. Books won’t fix really that they can help with instilling good values and stuff.

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I think there’s a lot of just core issues with just the way we live that that puts parents in a in a vulnerable, weak position. I’m a parent and trying to navigate what the next 20 years of parenthood look like. For me, those are things I’m thinking about. I was just trying to how do you.

Have biblical community, real fellowship, a team? So you’re not doing it alone? Yeah, yeah, yeah, because it does take more than one person. You can’t tackle all of the different things all by yourself.

Yeah, yeah. Isn’t that interesting? Because I would say there’s like the the best church buildings that have ever existed, there’s filled with people, people going to church, committed to church. Uh, they might even be in a small group. Yet parents are feeling, to your point, more alone and isolated than ever.

That’s because, well, we know biblical community isn’t really fully happening. There’s a lot of spectating happening and not participating. But but what’s interesting is your book, this whole organization, Brave Books, is actually set up in that model of like, bringing collaborators together to work together in this effort to bring a huge narrative right to kids. Yeah. Versus an author writing a book about one issue or maybe five issues, which is what you see a lot out there, right? You see a lot of people trying to bring one message or 2 or 3 messages, and they’re trying to do it, and they’re all alone and they’re not collaborating. But you’re doing something different here with Brave Books.

Yeah. Um, we’ve got a large collaboration of authors. We have 42 employees. Our we have a very tight, um, gritty culture here. Gritty.

Courageous and resolute is somebody actually, by definition, I just learned that the other day.

Somebody called her gritty.

Yeah. So I had to look it up and I went gritty. I was like, what? And then the second definition was courageous and resolute. I’m like, oh. Funny. I’ll take it. Okay. Anyways, yeah.

So, you know, half of our staff are probably more than half goes to the same church. And so that creates just like a wow. It’s more than just colleagues. You know, we have deep relationships and that comes trust. And you know when you’re doing creative work trust is essential because for a lot of reasons. But but you know, if you want to get people to come up with ideas and you know, there has to be trust there, you know that you’re not going to judge.

Believing in one another, too, and giving each other space.

Yeah, it’s been really cool. It’s been a fun three years.

But it seems like it’s more of a mission than it is a job. That’s what I’ve kind of gathered in meeting some of your employees. It’s true.

That was a fun tour.

We heard that a lot of you went to church together, that this mural here was actually painted by someone at your church.

Yeah.

Yes. So you guys do have a massive support?

Yeah, we do, we do.

So coming up, there’s something happening where you’re trying to mobilize people all over the country. I think it’s called Library Day, and I think it’s so cool. I want to hear more about it. But the idea of just, can you imagine everybody, if every library in every town was reading brave books to an audience of children, like, how magnificent would that be for shifting culture, but maybe just being an impact to the people in those libraries?

Yeah, yeah.

How are you doing this?

Okay, so so the story started with Kirk Cameron, that whole whole deal. You heard about that? Yeah. Yeah. His book was canceled. A bunch of libraries that had that had sponsor drag queen stories. So we asked, hey, can can we just host a story hour? You don’t have to sponsor us. You don’t have to pay us money like they did. The drag queens just let us come. And and they all said no. And and so that became a big thing. We started going. We threatened to sue them, you know, because they weren’t respecting our freedom of speech. They backed down because they were in the wrong, started doing these story hours. And it sort of caught on. We did like 25. And then eventually we said, all right, hey, we’ve been doing this for a while. It’s been fun. But, you know, let’s put the power to the people. And and we had our first inaugural C with the Library Day. It’s sort of a take on see what the whole that whole thing, um, where, where kids would show up at flagpoles and pray. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. And so we call it see you at the Library Day last year on August 5th, we had over 10,000 people show up across the country at libraries, and they hosted their own story hours. And a lot of them were reading brave books. Some of them were reading just wholesome kids books that they that they liked. And so this year we’re trying to do ten that and do a hundred thousand people across the country.

So are you kind of, um, calling all authors to deck in a sense and saying, hey, would you pick a library in your town or wherever you’re going to be at on this day and read the book that you wrote?

Yeah.

I mean, yeah. Authors? Yes. Our authors for sure. We’re going to be pushing them to, to do host hours. But but just anybody, anybody who wants to step up and host a story hour.

So a mom can say, hey, I love these brave boys. I can say that one.

Yeah, I can.

Go down to Eagle.

Idaho and.

And do a library reading of a brave book.

What’s the day? Which one.

Should I pick.

And what’s.

The date? So everybody knows we’re.

Gonna, um.

The date, I don’t know. Okay.

Zach, it’ll be in the show notes. It’s gonna be in the show notes, because Trent’s gonna get it to us. Yeah.

That’s exciting. Someday in August, I think it’s around the 20th. Or like, the. Yeah, right around that.

Um, so what can what can people do?

The 24th of August? Everybody. I got some hand signals around here.

Yes. Okay.

So August 24th, what can people do besides being willing to volunteer and host this? Okay.

Yeah. Yeah. So you can either host a story hour, which means, just like, you know, reserving the space, promoting it locally, getting getting the word out. Okay. Um, and then also but if you, if you want to support but you can’t host a story hour, then you can support by sponsoring a library, sponsoring a story hour, or sponsoring a host, whatever you want to call it.

What would that be?

Um, basically you go to, um, brave story. Com and you, you buy this, um, box that has like 50 American flags, some books and all these fun things for the library to make the host job super easy and to give kids all these little gifts we’ve got, like, um, the Bill of rights on a bookmark. Are you.

Kidding? Yeah. I want one of these boxes. Yeah, they’re really cool.

It’s like. Yeah, it’s a it’s a lot of liberty in a box or. Yeah, I.

Love that in a box. Okay.

So can also. All right. I was thinking about this because when I launched my book 12 years ago, my first book, um, I donated a bunch of books to the libraries in the area because I had so many women that wanted it and were there was just it was a ministry. Okay? So if people wanted to, they could even buy Brave Books, right? And donate them to their local library.

Yeah, yeah, we’ve got a lot because.

That would help with it. I mean.

Fill the.

Libraries. Fill the libraries. Yeah, that’s what I’m thinking.

Yeah, I love that.

Imagine if grandparents hello grandparents got mobilized and they decided because this is the thing is like if you think about it like the older generations too, they remember what America was like in a different sense than even us. And they are literally lit on fire about what is happening in this country right now. And so if they want something, they so many people come to us saying, I just don’t know how I can help. How can I help? Well, really, the biggest difference is going to be this next generation. They are the future leaders and a lot there’s a lot riding on this next generation, even though I don’t want to put the pressure on them. Yeah, but it’s a pivotal generation, um, generation Alpha um, born in 2015 and till like, even now. Right. Yeah. And these kids are it’s going to make a difference. And so if parents start rising up, if grandparents start rising up and teaching biblical values to their kids, that can make a massive difference. But it’s not just our kids. We have to influence the culture. There is already an attack where there’s indoctrinating books that are opposing Christian values in the libraries everywhere. I remember I used to take my kids to the library, even like 12 years ago, I banned the library because walking in there, I was like, no way. I don’t want my kids seeing these book covers. This is either nasty or scary and going to create night terrors or just ideologies that were completely not acceptable. Yeah, and so walking in it was difficult. But how are we going to change that? We have to be able to donate some things that we know are going to actually go.

To Story Hour with a positive book and lead it in your community. And so brave Books.com get those books. Get ready. August 24th is coming not too far away. Get on the subscription, feed your family some good nutrients of the mind and pointing them to God and pointing them to being heroes themselves and cultivating teamwork. I think it’s, uh, it’s so important. And, you know, really your you’re about evangelism, actually, because you’re equipping parents to with tools to basically disciple their children. And that’s the same thing we do. We equip parents to disciple their children with the greatest parenting podcast and the resources. So when people ask recently I’ve been like, well, we’re actually discipling the next generation. We may never actually speak to them, but the best people that possibly could speak to them are it’s a children’s program. The parents authorized it, you know, leaders of the family, which is the parents. And that’s the same thing you’re doing. You’re evangelizing the next generation, and you’re not ever. Well, sometimes, but rarely talking to them. The parents are right, and that is the best youth program that could possibly exist.

I just have.

To say something about the brave books, because I know that we have some grandparents that listen, and people who are who will ask, like, what do you do when it comes to birthdays? And grandparents always want to get books for the kids. Have them get a brave book subscription. Because the reality is, is a lot of grandparents have kids who’ve fallen away, chosen a wayward path. They’re frustrated by how their grandkids are being raised. But these books are not overtly preachy, but they have conservative values. They have things that I know that these grandparents would totally agree with, and it’s a great way to be able to start introducing some of the thoughts that stir the future conversations, because the discipleship happens in the later conversations. Yeah, it’s just stirring up the ideas in a creative way, right?

Yeah, yeah, I think that’s a that’s a great idea. We, we get a lot of grandparents who, who are sneaky.

Yep. Who Christmas.

Presents.

Birthday presents.

Oh, I got you a subscription.

Yeah. Exactly.

Yeah, yeah, we used to get a subscription to the zoo. Now it’s like, I like these kinds of things.

So, Trent, what do you see ahead for the organization and the vision of impact?

We’re gonna finish out the picture book saga. So it’s going to be a total of 50 books. It’s like a 50 month journey, and we’re going to take kids on, and then it’s going to transition to graphic novels. Then eventually we’ll have middle grade novels, chapter books for for kids, because there’s a there’s so much need.

There really is for.

Good, wholesome books that are chapter books. Yep. That’s a big problem.

Yeah. As a homeschool.

Mom, I know that firsthand.

Yes. No, we hear it all the time. So that’s a huge priority for us. Um, the big thing coming up is we’re coming up with our first TV show, Adventure Adventures with Iggy and Mister Kirk. Oh. So good. Yeah. I’m like, so loopy because I’ve been on set for three weeks straight and. And, uh, it’s been crazy, but it’s gonna be such a good show. I heard it’s.

Like a modern version of Mister Rogers, but it’s Mister Kirk.

Yeah, yeah, I mean, but it’s so different than Mister Rogers. I mean, like, it’s got it’s got no red. It’s got some of the know. He’s got a he’s got a cool explorer.

Okay, good. Hey, you.

Have a cool grandpa.

Sweater I do, I rock it, I.

Rock the grandpa.

Sweater. Nice. Um, so it’s. Yeah, it’s a live action where you’ve got Mister Kirk and Iggy, a puppet iguana as the two main characters got some guest stars. Leigh-allyn Baker from Good Luck Disney’s Good Luck Charlie. Um, some other great guest stars. Um, and you will have like, 15 minutes of live action where Iggy’s dealing with an important topic. So maybe it’s honesty, hard work, respecting authority, um, forgiveness. And then so they go on this little, you know, adventure where where Kirk’s coaching Iggy through this, this topic. Um, and then he’ll read a, a book in the middle of it and the, the, the pages will come to life through animation. And so it will have an animated story in the middle of it. Um, and then, uh, we’ll have a segment where, where kids come and ask Mister Kirk questions and they’re often that’s an opportunity for, for Mister Kirk to get into the practical application of whatever topic it is. So whether it’s honesty, teamwork, all that. Yeah. Um, and man, just it’s going to be so special.

I saw a little clip on, uh, a phone while.

Yeah, Zach was showing.

Us, and it looks really good.

It’s going to be so good.

It’s so cool.

Yeah, yeah. Laura. I mean, do you know.

Where these videos are going to be?

Um, we are in talks with different streaming platforms, um, to, to to, to to host it. And then also we’re planning on putting season one up on YouTube and then we’ll, we’ll see what happens with season two. But we’re we’re trying to get season one as far as far out and wide as possible. So we’d love to see it on Pure Flix Minnow. Yippee. Binky Fox Nation, Amazon, Netflix we want it everywhere. Yeah. Wherever. Wherever kids are. You know, really, that show needs to be because it is special. And yeah, man, the performance that Kirk Cameron is putting on is just it’s crazy. Like he was born to play this role. Leonardo DiCaprio Leonardo DiCaprio could say, hey, I want to do this role. I would take Kirk over him any day of the week just because he he it’s just natural.

He’s well, he’s a dad.

He’s had a lot of these life application conversations with his kids, I’m sure.

Yeah. For sure. Being a homeschool dad, he’s been.

You know, he’s been such a solid believer for so long and has raised six kids. But he’s also cool. Yeah, he he’s cool and he’s such a good teacher. It’s incredible. People are going to be blown away, you know, by Kirk. Oh I.

Can’t wait. Yeah I can’t wait. So so good. Well, we’re so glad to be able to be here. We so appreciate the mission behind what you’re doing. And the product is really high quality. Not just, you know, it’s good when the story’s really good, but it’s so much better when the animation is good, when the whole package is there, you feel like when you hold it you’re like, this is it’s quality. Yeah. This is something that I want out in my room and in my house. And then when I open it, it’s edifying and it’s uplifting. My family and it’s helping them be on a journey that’s wholesome and good and in a direction. But the journey never seems to end.

It will. Once you get to book 50, right? Book 50, that’ll take a while.

It’s not gonna end there. We’re just getting started.

Yeah, I like that. Yeah. All right, well, any.

Last thoughts for, uh, everybody listening?

Yeah. What they’re referring to is, you know, when you, when you read a book that we’ve done, you can feel our heart behind it. And our heart is to just bless kids and bless families. And so we put a lot of just attention, just attention detail. You know, our books go through. You wouldn’t believe the process books go through before they get published. We’re very thoughtful and and test them out like crazy. And so we believe that there needs to be a brand out there that that Christian parents can just absolutely trust with their kids imaginations. And we plan on being that brand. And so trust is the most valuable asset that we have. And we don’t play around with that. Yeah.

Because once it’s broken. Yeah. You know it’s not coming back. No not in today’s day and age.

Yeah exactly. And we aren’t going to break it. That’s what this company is and that’s what we’re going to be about.

So everybody go to Brave Books.com. Make sure you get on the subscription. Not only is it good, but it also helps them to continue to be creative. Yeah. See we it’s so important. It’s easy to go buy something cheap, uh, in a store somewhere that’s less edifying. But when you can get something higher quality. Yeah, sometimes it it might cost a little bit more or you’re paying a subscription. But remember, when you start spending money in a wiser way, in a direction of things you endorse, it enables companies like Brave Books to expand and scale, to have the vision realized and the impact that, you know, really needs to happen in our society. So this is about the next generation. So you’re not just buying a book for yourself, but think about it when you’re buying it, that you’re contributing to something that has a purpose, that is going to edify families all across the globe.

It’s going to help.

Fund these Kirk Carnegie shows, right?

That’s right. Um hum. Yeah.

They’re not cheap.

That’s right. Tv’s not cheap. I figured out.

Yeah, people help with the show. Like funding.

It. Yeah. If you want to support the TV show, um, go to watch Brave Comm. We’ve got these cool tiers and packages and and rewards that you can get by by supporting. Um, yeah. And that will be a good investment, I promise you. It’s going to be very special. Okay.

Hey, thanks for being here. Or I guess we’re in your place. Yeah.

Thanks for having us. Yeah, thanks.

Thanks for being.

Here. But thanks for being on the show in your place. Yes. And it was so fun. And thanks for.

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Whew. Okay. That’s good. Awesome, brother.

That was great.

Yeah.

Yeah. So good.

Thank you. Yeah. That’s great.

I just want you.

Guys to know that, uh, I just got married. April. Oh, really? And I feel ready to parent after you guys, so I’m ready to go. Let’s go.